just hope bungie stop make game for casuals

Your missing out... cells are some of the best additions made in a while... the charged with light mods last season were great to

Not even. The Warmind Cells are the only thing keeping me interested in this season.

Warmind cells are actually the extremely powerful and versatile once you activate them and have a good build. The problem is that Bungie failed to do a stream that showed us what they were capable of....and locked them behind WAY too much grinding for very little reward. It basically is a three week grind (if you only have one character) before you start to see any sort of reward form the core pve content this season. I’m not surprised—though I am sad—-that people are getting frustrated and losing interest. Loot incentive is being strained to the breaking point this season. The content is tilting with all the ability spam, and the rewards are paltry.

[quote]Apparently only like 10% of players actually have focused on doing the season things bc like myself there is no compelling reason to do them. [/quote] Feel free to show us your data source

Here's the problem, as I see it... I KNOW warmind cells (and other seasonal mods) CAN be very powerful. I just DON'T CARE, because it deviates so far from what Destiny is to me, and requires far too much investment in a system I'm simply not interested in. Destiny has always been about feeling good, every shot, every second sprinting, every jump, it's about the feel. To interact with these mods for a momentary boost in power, we have to sacrifice that FEEL. The mods are ridiculously expensive, their armor and elemental placements enforce yet another barrier to entry, and then tying the whole system to some of the most underwhelming weapons I've ever seen... I mean, come on now... I don't want to play with garbage guns to have an RNG dice roll at interacting with some momentarily powerful perk. I don't want to have to throw my stats in the toilet so I can TRY to access that momentary power. I don't want to change the muscle memory I've gained through literal years invested in this game, to dabble with momentary power. I'm just not fricking interested. It's not Destiny to me. I didn't start playing Destiny to theory craft builds, or juggle mods. I played Destiny because it felt good. It was simple enough to jump into, and allowed for slight min maxing, or other RPG mechanics, but didn't push them. Now that premise has been turned on its head to chase Smith's dreams of his glory days in OTHER games. I don't want those other games, if I did, I'd fricking play them instead! I'd have given THOSE games my money and time, not Destiny. Be it Halo, WoW, CoD, or any other game that people and Bungie have tried to shove the square peg of Destiny into their rounds holes, I don't want them. I want Destiny, and these systems, though interesting to some (who more than likely were interested in other more involved games long before coming to destiny) and potentially powerful, are simply NOT Destiny. I was running around today with some buds, and they are happily swallowing up this new system, hook line and sinker. Or so they say... Because the whole time we played, they pissed and moaned about how inconsistent the mods were behaving, how cells seemed to only drop in the last ad of a pack, how becoming charged with light with blueberries around was a PITA, etc... Yet whenever the conversation turned to my thoughts on the system, they defended it vehemently. It's gotten to the point where there's some level of ire towards me and my stubbornness about not engaging with this shiny new turd of a build system. I want everyone to have fun with Destiny, but I also don't want to see them turn Destiny into something it never was, just to scratch the itch they can get scratched elsewhere. For the love of all that is good and kind in the world, Bungie, please stop trying to change Destiny into something it's not, and make it fill shoes it never will. Let Destiny, be Destiny. That's when it is at its greatest. Not when it's pretending to be more than it is. A final thought on the mod system. Much like weapon retirement, knowing these mods are time limited, makes me not want to bother. What's the point in making a fun build, when in a couple seasons I know I've got to throw it in the trash? Sure it could be fun today, but I'll always be thinking about how much it'll suck when you take it away tomorrow, so why even fricking bother, today? I know all the tired arguments, power creep, balance issues, Dev time wasted on testing, blah blah blah. I understand the reality of these mods/systems. I just don't care. And that's the real problem. Myself and many others, just don't care. Until Bungie can find a way to make us care, they are just wasting their time, trying to chase after the ever elusive audiences of other games, while simultaneously pushing players like me out. In the end, it's a lose lose for Bungie, and all of us as players, no matter the side of the fence we sit on.

I don’t have the patience to save up 250 coins for 1 of the 8 upgrades in the 3rd row of 4 rows. That’s a good 8-9 Hours of non stop grinding. Dosnt seem worth it considering if it will get nerfed or retired

I haven’t don’t anything with the bunkers. Bounty grinding isn’t content. It’s boring as hell.

Yeah i really don't feel any real need to do any of the seasonal stuff, meanwhile this time last season i'd done half the stuff required for the seal already

I honestly couldn't care less about my bunkers. I upgraded all the towers last season but I'll be -blam!-ed if I can be bothered doing the same dull rubbish to even finish my edz bunker.

Word. Haven’t bothered to put time into any of the weapons or artifact past weapon mods for champions.

I think they were a cool idea and the definitely open up some build diversity but I just wish they would have continued with the charged with light mods.

I don't care for any of the seasonal armor mods for the most part cause they cost energy. Why would I waste 4+ energy on my armor for mods that only really effect PvE. The seasonal mod that boosts my mobility by 20 is really the only one I use. Lol. Artifact mods for weapons I use, since they don't cost anything but a mod slot. The only artifact armor mods I really use are Flare-up and Inferno Whip and the past season mods that made our grenades debuff mobs. They are too situational for me to re-work my entire armor mod loadout. If they cost no energy or 1 energy max I'd be more willing to work them into my loadout. At least this season's mods should cost like no energy. Since they are so specific to this season's weapons (most of which are meh) and are pretty much exclusively PvE related.

I got a great auto rifle from the bounties and that's all I wanted. None of my bunkers are fully upgraded and I doubt I'll touch the Io one much.

I dont do arena or towers event at all. They suck.

Warmind cells lol. That’s mods I’ll never use. Balls spawning from kills doesn’t seem interesting at all idgaf if they are powerful or not. Enough with the stupid gimmicks and mods already. Make some fun content, with interesting environments and cool bosses who don’t stomp.