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8/28/2019 2:00:58 PM
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Is Evil Real?
What I mean is, are there certain actions that can accurately be described as evil? And are there people who can be accurately described as evil?
Or is it too subjective, or too inaccurate, or there are more accurate psychological terms?
Thanks in advance for responses.
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1 Reply[b][i][u]FROM MY POINT OF VIEW THE JEDI ARE EVIL[/u][/i][/b]
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10 Repliesdeath is a preferable option over communism.
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1 ReplyUnfortunately I have always felt "evil" is how you view actions. Nobody believes they are the bad guy in their own story. Did Hitler and the [url=http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law]-godwinslaw!-[/url]-party believe they were the evil ones? I doubt it. I'd even say that today the US definitely views ourselves as heroes of the world when many places view us as the bad guys. I think it all really depends on your morals and world view.
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10 RepliesI don't know why it would not exist. Whether the definition of evil is subjective or absolute, it still exists. If you want my definition of evil, it is based on Christian theology. Evil is defined as believing yourself to be sufficient without God. It's that simple. As far as accuracy is concerned, I don't know which metric you are using. If you use Christian theological philosophy as a metric, my definition of evil is extremely accurate. If you use anti-theological philosophy as a metric, my definition couldn't be less accurate. Psychology is a bit of a sham, especially concerning psychiatry. There are a lot people they medicate who do not need medication. At the most, medication should be supplimental to counseling sessions. They are far too ready to prescribe and forget. In a lot of those cases, those people are driven to the edge. I do not want anyone else to go through the turmoil of a loved one being involuntarily committed because medication was chosen as the fix rather than a supplement to counseling. It's a lot of stress, a lot of anxiety, a lot of worry, a lot of sleepless nights, and a lot of attorney fees before they can be released and taken to someone who actually cares enough to help them and will not simply prescribe and forget.
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1 ReplyInfantile fanatical view of the world.
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15 RepliesDepends what you mean by “real”. Is there an objective thing out there called “evil”? No I don’t think so. Evil is a cultural/social idea. It’s a label we use to describe actions that are socially unacceptable. Actions in themselves from a purely objective standpoint aren’t good [i]or[/i] evil. When somebody murders somebody else the universe doesn’t care. It’s all just atoms interacting with other atoms. However humans, being social animals, have established boundaries and rules for behaviour (either consciously or unconsciously). These rules are generally subjective depending on the culture. However there are some rules that seem to be common across most, if not all cultures. Murder of children, theft, ràpe, and things of that nature are generally seen as “immoral” or “evil” amongst pretty much all societies (with exceptions). But just because evil is a subjective human construct that doesn’t mean it’s not “real”. It’s real to us and our psychology- that’s what matters.
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145 RepliesEdited by Starkweather: 8/29/2019 8:35:17 PMHave you seen our President? Edit: Beware. Political shark infested waters! LMFAO 😂
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28 RepliesNo. It’s as fake as god.
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4 RepliesEdited by ramthesocket: 8/30/2019 10:21:10 PMEvil is interpreted differently depending on the person so I say no. Edit: I misunderstood something here so take no mind to me
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1 ReplyDo you know the saying “beauty is as beauty does “? Well imo evil is as evil does. Shoplifting a chocolate is wrong, but not evil. Torturing a kitten (for an example) is wrong and evil, it doesn’t matter the why, nor the presence or absence of empathy. If you hurt a being (physically or emotionally) just for the fun of it, for me that is evil, no matter your perception of the thing. Now... evil as an external force?... no idea and no opinion.
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19 RepliesNo. Evil is purely perspective. Nothing in the universe is inherently good or evil, only made so in the eye of the beholder.
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[i]Why are we still here? Just to suffer?[/i]
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10 RepliesYes. If you don’t know how I won’t waste time explaining it 😴
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2 RepliesThe fact that you are questioning if evil exists proves that there is evil. If everything was just neutral, then we'd have no concept of some actions being good and some not being good. It's like if we lived in a world that was completely dark, we'd have no concept of darkness because that's just the way it is. It's just assumed. Evil in my opinion is the wrong way of getting stuff that is inherently good. No one is evil for the sake of being evil, they're always after something. Pleasure, money, ect. That's not bad in of itself, but people will go after these things in either the right way (working a job to make money) and there is the wrong way (robbing someone)
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17 RepliesEvil is a concept that is often regarded as being the baseline for anything that is anti-society. For example, if you believe in a different religion than someone else, the fanatics of that religious group may call you evil. However, there are cases of pure evil, often the result of specific psychological or environmental factors. One such case would be the Holocaust. Hitler thought what he was doing was right, but what actually happened was so horrible that the only real description for it is Evil. He killed millions because he saw them as unworthy or because they didn't fit into his "vision". That is what I personally call evil.
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3 Repliesanswer this: was hitler evil? yes. therfore evil exists
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Anything that goes against logos is evil.
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7 RepliesYes. Yes. Good and evil are like light-and-shadow. So the nature of what is considered evil changes over time, as the nature of what is considered moral behavior changes over time. This is what I think is the best way to understand what is "Evil" in the modern age, and with our current level understanding of human nature. https://i2.wp.com/satogames.es/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/dinaENG.jpg?ssl=1 Spiral dynamics----and the philosopy of Ken Wilber that borrows heavily from it-----looks at morality....and the evolution of cultural moral codes, on a developmental/evolutionary spiral. At the bottom is the level of instinct...and the animal need for physical survival. This is esentially "pre-moral" because there is no self-awareness....and no real choice. A cat needs to eat to survive...so it kills the mouse without consideration for the mouse. The next step up....brings to the level of awareness...and morality. But its PURELY individual. The idnividual may be intellectually aware of others, but feels no compassion or empathy for them. You have what I want. So I simply take it from you because I want it. This ARCHAIC/DOMINATION/POWER level is what most people would consider to be EVIL. Its at this level that people operate with the maliciousness, selfishness, and lack of empathy that most healthy (more evolved) people would consider to be evil. As you go UP the spiral...you get in to tradtional value systems (Order/Authoritarian)....then modern value systems (Achievement/Competitive)....then post-modern (Community/Ecological) ...then post- post-moder (Intergral/Holistic). At each level, the person holding onto that value system develops a greater and greater capacity to see the world---and other people----from a greater and greater number of points of view. While still being able to hold onto their own as well. Morality transforms from rigid rules....to guiding principles....to situation-specific judgements based on what does the most good and the least harm. TLDR: Think of Evil as a very specific sort of 'psychiatric disorder". Where someone gets "stuck" in a way of dealing with the world that is far below that of most other people. Where they blend the profound self-absorption of the Narcissist (President Trump)...and the maliciousness, inability to empathize, and lack of conscience of the Sociopath. One author who wrote a popular book on the subject simply refered to evil as Malignant Narcissism.
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47 RepliesThe Bible says that God has written His morals, like the 10 commandments, on everyone's heart, so they know right from wrong
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1 ReplyYes and no. Evil: [i]adjective[/i] - Profoundly immoral and wicked. [i]noun[/i] - Profound immorality and wickedness, especially when regarded as a supernatural force Yes: We created the definition of evil and the morals that we go by. No: Morals are completely made up and there will almost always be someone who has different morals to you - if you think murder is bad, someone else might think it's good. Tl;dr: [spoiler]Was this not short enough?![/spoiler]
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6 RepliesIt didn’t exist before video games trust me
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3 RepliesMartin Shkreli, if that guy isn't a modern face of evil I'm not sure what would be.
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1 ReplyEvery villain is lemons is a serious criminal society that must be dealt with[spoiler]in all seriousness, yes, there is good and evil. It is just like truth and lies, there is a clear line between them, it doesn’t vary from person to person, although the person may think differently than another, but what is good doesn’t technically change just because you someone doesn’t think so, they simply just think differently Also just going to add that the line between good and evil is a bit more blurry than truth is, ex. Doing the right thing for the wrong reasons Summary, evil is real but can be disguised[/spoiler]
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3 RepliesWell I think you're coming at this from the wrong angle, psychology has very little to do with evil itself and much more of why one would commit a deed that may be considered "evil". If you're looking for whether evil exists or not then you're asking a much more of a philosophical question than it is psychological.
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1 ReplyA simple concept for a simple mind.
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8 Replies[quote]What I mean is, are there certain actions that can accurately be described as evil? And are there people who can be accurately described as evil? Or is it too subjective, or too inaccurate, or there are more accurate psychological terms? Thanks in advance for responses.[/quote] Yes. We do “evil” things to each other and to nature. We are not inherently evil but products of our environment.
