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Edited by FL00FING AB0UT: 8/10/2019 6:03:45 PM
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Erentil is out of control

It really is. It’s the only thing that has no counter other than using it (edit: this was poorly phrased, better is, “one of the best counters is using an Erentil yourself.”)) And the range it can one shot is game breaking. With Magazine perks such as Under Pressure and other stability enhancements, it can outgun other weapons at 30+ meters. This outmatches the range of every special but snipers, but for obvious reasons, they leave you vulnerable. Other fusion rifles seem to be in check, but for some reason Erentil FR4 is exceedingly effective as a weapon. With scavenger perks, players are able to use this weapon as a main weapon without needing to use anything else. Yes. I’m whining. But it’s also ridiculous. Edit: So many people are upset that I’ve targeted ONE weapon. Guys. If it’s so easy to counter, why are you trying so hard to keep it as is?
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  • I want fusion rifles to be strong but it does seem like Erentil is the outlier at this point. Hopefully there will be some balancing around all fusions. I do think there needs to be a hard cap to the range.

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  • You’re right it is. It’s just so sad to see a fusion rifle(erentil) of all things be such a crutched in weapon now mainly because of how little skill it requires to use.

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  • Erentil is definitely out performing other fusion rifles. It's boring loading into a match and seeing a bunch of destiny dad's equipping their Pulse Rifles, Erentil and a Colony because who needs thumbs? Right?

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    • Dont worry, in about two years you’ll get a emblem for being massacred by it

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    • Just got high impact and under pressure and range mw. Will test tomorrow xD

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    • I wouldn't say it's out of control, the range that it's so consistent at is a little over the top, but for me personally bungie really needs to address special an heavy ammo in PvP as there is barely any primary gun skill no more it's all special an heavy spamming.

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    • Be careful, I posted a clip of the broken toaster https://twitter.com/bfreak40/status/1160339135137288192?s=21 and they’re actually defending it. I guess players need their crutches....Hilarious

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      • It's fine.

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      • Edited by GMDeece7: 8/11/2019 4:28:09 AM
        The only thing that will happen if erintil is nerfed would instead make the precision frame fusions take its place... I have the curated tempered dynamo from scourge and it can perform very well in the crucible. I actually prefer it on my main character. Have you people even tried the precision frame? Faster charge time, especially with backup plan, easier to control, all your really doing is buffing precision frame fusions like the tempered dynamo...

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      • We use high impact fusion rifles because they're the only viable option for PvP. You wanna know what's on the rise? The Last Word. It's friggin everywhere these days.

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      • This is so 2015

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      • Dying always sucks, but if you play against people that are aggressive and using shotguns it's no match. Not to mention all the 1 hit melee going around takes zero charge time. If anything they need to decress the charge time.

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      • My wizened rebuke is better

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      • No dude. Having used that fusion a ton I can tell you that its. Charge time is its weakness. Yes I know that backup plan is a thing. It's the only reliable legendary fusion in the game so let's not ask for nerfs please. Can you snipe? Can you slide shotty? You can do it!!

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        • A big part of erentil’s success is that it’s a direct counter to one of the most popular playstyles in destiny which is rush with a shotgun (and/or a recluse). Erentil’s biggest weakness is its charge time which means it’s up to the user to prepare and expect incoming attacks. This is true for most fusion rifles. A big reason erentil shines so much is because people were able to farm for god rolled ones in menagerie during the chest glitch. And erentil beat the menagerie fusion rifle in stats.

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          • Its easy to counter, not trying to sound like a prick, but if you use cover and bait their charge then its an easy clean up strafing from cover. Works for me most of the time.

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          • I like the drang. Side step into shots with that and it’s pretty good. If I die tovthe erentil I laugh..... I just say in my head “ooOoooOo the erentil is mental” and move on. I secretly think cûnt but praise them for not using a jotuun or shotgun.

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              Right... because having a ttk of a second (compared to instantkills and faster guns) with almost no chance of ever getting a second shot off is broken. Does anyone even register the fact that Erentil takes almost an entire second to charge plus more time to hit its non hit scanned bolts? Plus shotguns are all around just better in our current map pool? If someone has an erentil, solution: stop letting them control the gun fight. Don’t stand in the open outside, use hallways and corners to your advantage. Like someone with thumbs would.

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                As the owner of a true GOD roll erentil, (on my titan) it has turned me from a .9 to a 2.0+kd player. It has its situations where it is great. But sadly shotguns still reign supreme.

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              • Edited by filthee19: 8/11/2019 2:28:10 AM
                I can handle being cleaned up by a fusion rifle but being one shot by a shotty from 20m away - now that triggers me. Man I miss my god roll Saladin's Vigil from D1..

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                • If your a shotty mainer stfu, if not then your good. But I have one with 86 range, range finder and range master work. It is stupid good, but the enemy team dictates if i bust it out or not (its equipped on my titan if you want to check it out.)

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                  • Blame the meta , the game , and the streamers for telling people to equipt all the trash weapons ........usually no skill guns to reach higher ranks....they need to change the ranking system And prohibit certain guns in comp

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                    • you mainly use it as a baiting or kite the player type situation. Flanking close-mid range as well. aggressive teams with at least 2+ rushing in with shotguns are a good counter to it. In duel type situations where you know the guy has no butt buddy glued to him it is hard to deal with though. As they just bait you back a little & kill you when you turn the corner form a very safe range.

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                    • Do fusions use hit-scan in D2 or are they projectiles?

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                      • History definitely repeats itself. Y'all complained about shotguns and fusions until they were unusable any and everywhere. Y'all need to find a counter or gtfo of PVP seriously.

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                        I made a post about Erentil not too long ago. I was just saying how far it could kill (I tested a decent roll and got to about 27 meters as far as a consistent ONK is concerned). But, people responded about better rolls going even further. I had a friend with a God roll and against a perfectly still target, the OHK range was 70 meters. Then, we tested moving targets. Sprinting, jumping, strafing, etc. Consistent OHK range for the same roll came out to 40+ meters. That's absolutely insane. I then made a poll asking people which range they consistently get kills with or get killed by an Erentil, and the poll reflected the same results as my test. That's crazy. I feel like the only OHK weapon at that range should be a sniper rifle. Erentil is an extremely low skill gap weapon and it just maps people.

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