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Edited by Mythic, Harbinger of Light:
8/2/2019 5:57:16 PM
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If OEM stays as is for Titans...
Give the other 2 classes an equal.
Titan: OEM (king), Lion Rampants (great).
Hunter: Foetracer?, Graviton Forfeit? Wormhusk Crown?, Stomp-EE5 (great).
Warlock: Eye of another World?, Ophidian Aspect?, Alchemy’s Raiment?, Transversive Steps (come on really, not even one?)
Look at the listed options available to try and counter OEM, None.
Can you buff/rework these to feel like better options?
Foetracer: causing damage to a target allows you to track them without line-of-sight for 8secs, breaking there shield instantly recharges your class ability.
Graviton Forfeit: when critically wounded, you temporarily vanish from sight (3secs). Increases the duration of invisibility effects, dodge Invisibility lasts 5secs, smoke bomb Invisiblity lasts 5secs.
Wormhusk Crown: (I know this was nerfed previously for being to strong but compared to OEM, was it really?) dodging grants a 1/4 of health and starts recovery.
Eye of another World: track wounded targets you damage for 5secs.
Recharge rate of abilities are greatly increased (grenade (30secs), melee (30secs) and class ability energy (15secs).
Ophidian Apspect: Weapons ready and reload vary quickly.
Melee damage deals lingering effects.
Void temporarily (2secs) drains the abilities of the target and gives it to you (grenade, melee and class).
Arc leaves a temporary charge of energy that chains damage to nearby targets.
Solar lights the target on fire causing increased burn damage to them and nearby targets.
Alchemy’s Raiment: Gain heightened senses when crouched or in a rift.
When crouched, every 3secs your motion tracker shows the precise location of nearby enemies.
When in a rift gain true-sight.
Transversive Steps: just add traction please.
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Warlocks with escape artists is beastly
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6 RepliesI never see stacked teams of OEM titans. Then again I'm in console. I know it's different on PC, but that's because titans in general are better on PC. Titan exotics are mostly trash, the one super gain exotic we got got nerfed into oblivion. Anteous wards are way to high risk high reward and then dont always proc. You could argue amorantarium and synthoceps but even then eh. The new boots are good, if you have a shoulder charge and get the drop on someone bout it. And mask of the quiet one is a sleeper, but other than that... pretty terrible. Realistically we have 3, maybe, good skill trees, top tree hammer, bottom tree striker, mid tree sentinel, but even then sentinel is still meh due to hit detection. 1 eyed mask is good because its viable. But like someone else said if you can't win your 1v1s that's your fault. Health regen is not instant and comes after the overshield fills up, and the weapon damage bonus is essentially nothing. Wormhusk needed a nerf as it was based on a class ability not getting a kill. It was just too easy to activate, and get back . Next you guys will be wanting truth nerfed because its tracking is the only decent tracking in game.
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4 RepliesWhat kind of a scrub Warlock doesn't have Transversive Steps with traction?
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1 ReplyI swear pvp kids ruin shit in every game they touch. This exotic was pretty boss on bottom tree striker in PVE before the nerf.
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Nerf the f'in thing into the ground, just don't f%uck with my skullfort!
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2 RepliesGive Foetracer overshield on enemy kill, and see how Titans enjoy THAT.
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5 RepliesEdited by jonpall: 8/2/2019 2:21:27 PMYou should not be punished for shooting at someone in an fps game. Seeing people through walls should not be a thing in an fps game unless it is a special ability like overwatch widowmaker. There is a lot of stuff I can understand having a different opinion from me on but this is something I will not yield, I have yet to get a convincing pro-OEM argument.
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1 ReplyLol, lion rampant is "great"? That thing is sucky. If thats the only other exotic you can pick for titans, then you aren't really looking.
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The amount of people thinking oem is about winning 1v1s. These people actually understand nothing about this game. It's really sad tbh
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4 RepliesTitans easiest PvP class imo
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I’d be down for that. And I’m a titan main.
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20 RepliesEdited by Athos SD: 8/2/2019 8:23:26 AM[quote]Give the other 2 classes an equal. Titan: OEM, Lion Rampants. Hunter: Foetracer?, Graviton Forfeit? Wormhusk Crown?, Stomp-EE5. Warlock: Eye of another World?, Ophidian Aspect?, Alchemy’s Raiment?, Transversive Steps? Look at the listed options available to try and counter OEM, None. Can you buff/rework these to feel like better options? Foetracer: causing damage to a target allows you to track them without line-of-sight for 8secs, breaking there shield instantly recharges your class ability. Graviton Forfeit: when critically wounded, you temporarily vanish from sight (3secs). Increases the duration of invisibility effects, dodge Invisibility lasts 5secs, smoke bomb Invisiblity lasts 5secs. Wormhusk Crown: (I know this was nerfed previously for being to strong but compared to OEM, was it really?) dodging grants a 1/4 of health and starts recovery. Eye of another World: track wounded targets you damage for 5secs. Recharge rate of abilities are greatly increased (grenade (30secs), melee (30secs) and class ability energy (15secs). Ophidian Apspect: Weapons ready and reload vary quickly. Melee damage deals lingering effects. Void temporarily (2secs) drains the abilities of the target and gives it to you (grenade, melee and class). Arc leaves a temporary charge of energy that chains damage to nearby targets. Solar lights the target on fire causing increased burn damage to them and nearby targets. Alchemy’s Raiment: Gain heightened senses when crouched or in a rift. When crouched, every 3secs your motion tracker shows the precise location of nearby enemies. When in a rift gain true-sight. Transversive Steps: just add traction please.[/quote] How about you win your 1s and stop baiting us into chasing you down like a coward.
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10 Repliesthere is nothing to counter because OEM doesn't make you stronger in a 1vs1
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2 RepliesNobody's even talking about dragon shadow for hunters which is, imo, the best PvP hunter exotic. Wraithmetal Increases movement speed, increases mobility, increases reload speed, increases weapon handling speed and can be practically kept up indefinitely if you wear 5 paragon mods.
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Golden gun, blades, Nova bomb, chaos all have exotics that buff them. Hunters can go invis and reload dodge. Locks have healing rifts and nearly unstoppable supers. Both have basically fire and forget supers and don't even get me started on that frigging tracking Nova bomb. Handheld supernova? Really? I've had far more problems with the above than Titans running OEM, I don't even use it. But it breaks the game because so many can't win a 1v1 against somebody running a crutch exotic. Has SoG had a nerf yet? Because that one feels stupidly over powered especially in Gambit. *You're being invaded* *Blade Barrage* Death heals primeval Death heals primeval Death heals primeval Death heals primeval *Ten seconds later* Heeeerrrree's Johnny! Warlocks insert Stormcaller/Daybreak in place of Blade Barrage.
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Edited by John: 8/3/2019 10:32:52 AMYou for real ?? as titan i will say this OEM is OP yes it need a tone down but there are better exotics to use for builds OEM limits the way you play PVP. I dont even use it .... Hunters have inherent abilities and super that out weight OEM or any titan ability or super(spectral blades blade barrage, dodging and then healing cmon.... Warlock have mobility in jump capabilities that can turn most of the titans useless(we cant jump like that) Golden gun, Blade Barrage, Nova bomb, Chaos Reach all of these have exotics that help them even further... Warlock and hunter ability do so much more damage and in more consistent manner that titans its not even a contest, a titan can be much less tankier then a warlock which senseless, titans can get shutdown in super so fast it hurts.....and i could go on but why am trying to reason with you... people see what they want 2. and did not even mention that in PVE we titans have to sweat just to help out) Bur yes OEM "wall hack" is just broken as f....(i just dont use it 1 because it s broken 2 i dont like the way i have to play to take the most out of OEM)
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2 RepliesWhat u got against oem? You should always buy oem parts.
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2 RepliesNo because they’re not as ugly looking as OEM.
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1 ReplyFoetracer, Wormhusk, Stomp-EE5, and Liar's Handshake are all very viable options for hunters. Not OEM strong, but there are more plans to nerf it. We should not be buffing things to the level of broken just to make up for one piece being broken. It's much better to nerf 1 armor piece down to the other's levels.
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12 RepliesEdited by GMDeece7: 8/1/2019 7:46:10 PMDude. There are already plans to nerf it again... This post continually comes up, and there are responses from both cozmo and dmg. Titans are about to become the most worthless class in the game due to the inevitable nerfs to their abilities. And I would mention that they are now going to be EVEN WORSE in pve. All titan exotics are trash except OEM. All titans will go into pretty much all activities without equipping an exotic. No activity will want a titan. Get it buddy. You got your freaking wish. Get some wine and cake and celebrate, while 90% of all titan characters are deleted from peoples accounts. However, it seems warlocks might be in a little trouble too... Good ol Datto has released a video calling for a well nerf. Now, I think we ALL realize datto tends to get his way... After all, wasn’t it him who called for the whisper nerf? Hmmmmmm... What class do you think datto is going to go against next (my best guess is hunters). An old saying “you never know what you have until it’s gone,” is quite appropriate here, wouldn’t you say? Be careful what you wish for. You NEVER know the effects it can have in the long run, right?
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You named the top tier Warlock exotics which are already great in PvP but they don’t need to be one the level of OEM. I personally don’t have a problem with it but I can still see it getting toned down a little
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7 RepliesCan titans get a dodge movement to compete against hunter and warlock movement?
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No way do we all need such a crutch exotic. Nerf the Titan one and leave it at that.
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13 RepliesLol if you can win 1v1s OEM is easy to beat.
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19 RepliesCan I just play PVE as a Titan in peace? God damn
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Ah yes, I too would like to see two of the very few things titans have going for them nerfed. Don’t get me wrong, OEM is not okay. (My personal thought is make the kill just regen health and not give an overshield but I dunno) but I feel bottom tree striker is less an issue with striker and more the maps. I mean I can’t imagine it being an issue on something like widows court. My personal opinion would be to lower the damage in CRUCIBLE ONLY, so that it takes to smacks to kill instead of one. And leave the time given back as is. I dunno. I’d just like some reason not to just switch to warlock in shadowkeep, and as it stands I’m not seeing much reason why I shouldn’t just switch to warlock.
