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Destiny PvP is the WORST online experience I’ve ever had!!!

DESTINY PVP IS AN OVERLY INCONSISTENT ONLINE GAMING EXPERIENCE THAT JUST SIMPLY DOESNT WORK!!!! Are there fun games every once in awhile, sure! It is however, very seldom. But mostly, the problem is that you can’t count on it working. You can’t rely on your weapons because the connections vary so much from game to game, that what works one game doesn’t work the next. This gives you no confidence is what you are using. This is also why most people use more forgiving, low skill weapons. You don’t have to aim with Colony or Wardcliff Coil. For everyone thinking Get Gud... you can’t in this game!! No amount of practice will make you any better than you are very early on. You can play all the games you want, no amount of skill will protect you from getting shot through walls, or opponents that don’t take damage, or the ENDLESS string of supers that will kill you on spawn one after the other. It’s not a question that the game can’t be fun, because it can. I play private matches all the time and we have a blast!! But once you match make, the game falls apart. It’s a 50/50 coin toss as to what side of the connection roulette wheel that you land on. If you say “I don’t have any of these issues, I love this game...”, I hate to break it to you, but your connection is probably ruining everyone else’s experience. It’s so bad in fact, anyone that was average or less, is completely gone. This leaves “above average” as low man on the totem pole and are left to be slaughtered by the top 5%. For every 1 person that likes PvP, there are thousands and thousands that hate it. The problem is, I’m one that LIKES it!! But I simply don’t play it very often because it’s broken and doesn’t function properly. I play a couple games, and am so enraged at the end, I’m forced to turn it off to keep my sanity. Hell, there are even instructional video from streamers that tell people, for comp help, “Turn it off when you get too frustrated!!!” I don’t think there is any way to save it, but I’d love for BUNGIE to prove me wrong. Sadly this will be the first since D1 day 1 that I will be waiting for reviews before I pick up Shadowkeep. I’ve just lost all faith in this game and won’t be moving forward until it safe that the coast is clear.

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  • This is sadly true. Pvp is too inconsistent. One game evrything feels so smooth and cool and the next game suddenly its like People take no damage at all. Some People lag so much that its a joke.

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  • Too inconsistent. I'm an average player and I either steamroll or get steamrolled. One match I can go undefeated with 30 kills and the very next I can get 3 assists with 8 deaths neither of which reflect my actual skill level. It's a hot mess of ghost bullets, dying after taking cover and being killed by a kinetic weapon before you have time to even react. Unbalanced matchmaking and poor connections make P2P PvP a below average experience. We could keep banging our heads against a wall in asking for dedicated servers but after this long we need to just accept it will never happen. We've flogged that dead horse enough. The sad truth is, Bungie is a business and the bottom line is profits trump anything else. Research groups show them that pleasing the PvP community with dedicated servers probably won't actually have a significantly positive impact on profit and therefore they won't invest. They will keep focusing on content that sells. That's why they are hyping Shadowkeep right now, everywhere. YouTube ads, Facebook ads, Google ads and so on. They never hype PvP and that's an indication they have no intention of investing in it. That's just how it is.

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      I can't really agree with you... and don't get me wrong I'm not a Bungie fan boy and I call them out when I think they are doing something wrong BUT... the Crucible has to be the more fun I ever had in a video game. Whoever, I believe there is always space for further improvement, balancing that needs to be addressed, connections issues and so on... but overall I do have an amazing fun experience out there.

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    • This guy obviously never played any of the Smash Bros. Online

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    • Most of the time I get instakilled by people with them hitting all of their headshots even though I'm moving, I don't know if everyone just became so good at the game or it's just that I appear standing still to them. Do others feel the same ? You can check my latest games sometimes I'm decent sometimes I'm a complete detriment to my team.

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      • They just need to remake the pvp to be more like halo with vehicles and 20v20 maps

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        • Edited by Cinderchar: 7/30/2019 2:02:45 AM
          Crucible is the only thing that can top itself as the biggest piece of shit in the game. When you think QP is the biggest piece of shit, IB rolls around. And just when you think IB is the biggest piece of shit, you’ve still got Comp. It’s impressive how many layers of shit Crucible is.

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        • BUMP!

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        • Lag seems to get worse with every update. Rubber banding, enemy health going from a sliver back to half, and massive damage out of nowhere in PvE. PvP is full of ghost bullets, taking massive damage, getting shot around corners(imagine pre-nerf queens breaker but with every gun), instant death from grenades, no grenade visual effects until dead, dying from rockets that you don't see fired and explode after death, and can't dodge Jotunn because I don't see the fireball. I have played on 3 different Xboxes, 3 different TV's all on game mode, turned off 4k and HDR, connected a 1ms gaming monitor, cat 6a wired connection trying different wires, different high-end cable modems/high-end routers, updated connection to 200/12, reduced bufferbloat to A-/B+, tried directly wired to modem, and played with WiFi disabled and no other devices running. Only thing I can't do is switch carriers. Other games play just fine. Destiny on console plays horribly. I had to get an external SSD just to deal with load times.

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        • Yeah it’s the worst

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        • best way don't buy shadow keep let hem fix there servers its 2019 when do those .... understand

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          • Edited by P3rfectEnemy: 7/30/2019 12:50:20 AM
            So how do you get an 8 hour comp match with 300 kills? That sounds like a rather dedicated player. Also, your comp score is 2200+. Now, many of your points are valid but you play A LOT so something is keeping you coming back.

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            • Just relaxing from a crazy day at work. Decided to mess around in D2, not really do much, wait until tomorrow to start the grind.... Stikes were cool. Did the Nessus planet stuff. Made the mistake of going into comp... Damn did that instantly ruin my mood. Comp is the cesspool of Destiny 2. There is an awful feeling it creates. It doesn't need to be fixed, it needs to go away. Cut out like a diseased part of the body. Just talking about comp makes me feel physically uncomfortable

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              • Edited by TheShadow-cali: 7/29/2019 6:47:09 PM
                Hmm, do you think how Bungie released the base game has anything to do with this? The single biggest "mistake" Bungie did with crucible was only create 4v4 maps. How the hell does a company go from creating Halo and D1 to this? Could it be that Lukes vision of destiny 2 is the wrong vision anyone has ever had with a game like this?

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              • Tell me about it . I was on a 3 game win streak. All of a sudden during survival i couldnt respawn the last 3 rounds. I had tp watch my teammates run around short handed hoping they wouldnt die. Needless to say we won the match i lost my win streak got the rewards but did not move up in Glory rank because of this sh!t show. Stupid!!

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              • Tell me about it . I was on a 3 game win streak. All of a sudden during survival i couldnt respawn the last 3 rounds. I had tp watch my teammates run around short handed hoping they wouldnt die. Needless to say we won the match i lost my win streak got the rewards but did not move up in Glory rank because of this sh!t show. Stupid!!

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              • It's funny you are having problems every game but tell those of us who have almost no issues that it's our connection. Maybe it's someone whom you game with or maybe it's just you. Your exaggerating the lag, your exaggerating the skill levels. It sounds like you need an excuse so you can feel better about yourself. There are no more issues than in any other fps out there. High skill guns? What are these, Destiny has high aim assist on everything. Chaining supes? Yes it's annoying but they are the reason most play, most love the space magic.

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              • d e d i c a t e d s e r v e r s

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              • You haven't played The Warframe PvP if you think Destiny is bad

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              • Smash bros online is the worst for me. I can have a little fun in crucible

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              • So I play on PC and I can say connection wise Destiny 2 is pretty consistant. You have the occasional lagger but they usually get kicked part way into the match. Console on the other hand... because people are playing on Wifi more often, connections get sparatic especially when family members turn on things like Netflix eating

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              • I played 1 match of Iron Banner today for the emblem......yep it's still a steaming pile of crap.

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              • [quote]DESTINY PVP IS AN OVERLY INCONSISTENT ONLINE GAMING EXPERIENCE THAT JUST SIMPLY DOESNT WORK!!!! Are there fun games every once in awhile, sure! It is however, very seldom. But mostly, the problem is that you can’t count on it working. You can’t rely on your weapons because the connections vary so much from game to game, that what works one game doesn’t work the next. This gives you no confidence is what you are using. This is also why most people use more forgiving, low skill weapons. You don’t have to aim with Colony or Wardcliff Coil. For everyone thinking Get Gud... you can’t in this game!! No amount of practice will make you any better than you are very early on. You can play all the games you want, no amount of skill will protect you from getting shot through walls, or opponents that don’t take damage, or the ENDLESS string of supers that will kill you on spawn one after the other. It’s not a question that the game can’t be fun, because it can. I play private matches all the time and we have a blast!! But once you match make, the game falls apart. It’s a 50/50 coin toss as to what side of the connection roulette wheel that you land on. If you say “I don’t have any of these issues, I love this game...”, I hate to break it to you, but your connection is probably ruining everyone else’s experience. It’s so bad in fact, anyone that was average or less, is completely gone. This leaves “above average” as low man on the totem pole and are left to be slaughtered by the top 5%. For every 1 person that likes PvP, there are thousands and thousands that hate it. The problem is, I’m one that LIKES it!! But I simply don’t play it very often because it’s broken and doesn’t function properly. I play a couple games, and am so enraged at the end, I’m forced to turn it off to keep my sanity. Hell, there are even instructional video from streamers that tell people, for comp help, “Turn it off when you get too frustrated!!!” I don’t think there is any way to save it, but I’d love for BUNGIE to prove me wrong. Sadly this will be the first since D1 day 1 that I will be waiting for reviews before I pick up Shadowkeep. I’ve just lost all faith in this game and won’t be moving forward until it safe that the coast is clear.[/quote] Mad cuz bad https://destinytracker.com/d2/profile/psn/Rappo000 https://i.imgur.com/xISBXQF.jpg It seems to work ok for me?

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                • Yeah i enjoy pvp but it definitely does have issues. The spawning pisses me off more than anything, seems like there's someone at every inch of the map constantly. I'm starting to think that most maps really aren't built for 6v6.

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                • It has its flaws, but it’s far from the worst I’ve ever played. [spoiler]*cough* fallout 76[/spoiler]

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                • He is probably referring to Iron Banner It's partially scripted and the winner of each match is pre-determined by matchmaking, half of the time the mercy rule kicks in the other 50% one team takes a massive lead and then the illusion of closing the gap kicks in through catch-up mechanics like in a GTA-Online Race. If I'd care I would be upset but generally speaking it would be a lot better if it was an actual competition, it happens maybe 1 out of 10 times that you are in a fair match. Grenades not registering, 8 Bygones shots in the head with Rangefinder and Headseeker will not kill that bloody -blam!- who's not even straving, he is just standing there like knucklehead and won't die, and when the catch-up mechanic is on you will survive a Blade Barrage for no reason and kill the same guy by one shooting his leg. Well that is what happens to average players, awesome players go out there and kill. I can totally understand that one believes there is no learning curve based on Iron Banner alone. I can't be bothered taking this serious, it is sold as a competitive mode but is really an arcade mode and it is probably the worst thing about Destiny next to Comp Matchmaking.

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