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Edited by Novichok:
4/25/2019 11:36:35 PM
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I worked really hard as a solo player to get Luna's and I've put up with a lot of sh#t decisions by Bungie but this is it. People complain about Luna's/NF because they're just not good at pvp. Instead of recognizing this as a fact they just cry and cry and cry like spoiled and entitled children because that's exactly what they are.
Perhaps instead of crying like a bunch of babies and ruining things for the skilled players you could take some initiative and improve your pvp skill sets. Being rewarded by ruining things for the people who work hard to get pinnacle weapons just proves that you are in fact just a bunch of spoiled little children. You are pathetic. Even more pathetic are Bungie for facilitating this type of behavior.
Let's call this what it is: equality of outcome taking a giant dump on equality of opportunity. Have fun with your trash game you commie, crybaby, entitled pieces of sh#t.
To wrap things up, Know this: if a person with a severe traumatic brain injury(skull fractured in 5 places and in a coma for many months after), who has had three tendons reattached surgically in his dominant hand(EPL and APL and one other in my thumb) and an ulna shortening osteotomy in his left arm can get a Luna's and you can't then you are garbage at pvp. Deal with it.
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On console, using 180s requires almost no skill at all. You can’t claim you’re better at PvP because you are able to own with Luna’s / NF. They are not difficult to use.
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I agree very much, the people who cried nerf when they get blasted and don’t want to put in the effort to get better is disgusting, and what’s worse is they got what they want
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You could be looking in a mirror and your post would still make 100% sense. You are obviously pretty good at pvp, if you got the Luna's despite all your surgeries. So, it shouldn't be a problem to adapt and overcome the latest obstacle. You are telling us you were looking at the pearly gates of heaven, basically 90% curtains, 5 months in a coma, had multiple life changing surgeries, and you are complaining over a gun in a video game? It seems the Lord has been trying to nerf you for a while, you just keep coming back and stomping the noobs. I think you'll be ok with the new Luna.
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Fair enough. It's just frustrating, especially when your frontal and temporal lobes are essentially Jello. It boils down to me being against what I perceive as rewarding defeatist behavior when the developers are taking the easy route by just penalizing those that worked hard to earn the weapons.
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[quote] Toxic competitive people are more likely to be insecure about their own "abilities" and compare themselves with others, and tell themselves they win for no reason. Example: Getting the Pinnacle weapons is so easy this season, getting them using tonics doesn't count, why do you want the weapons if your going to be trash with them anyway etc. It all stems from an inability to be successful at anything important or never experiencing praise from their peers, so the only thing they know is self gratification with constant pats on the back, likely due to neglectful relationships.[/quote]
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angry person is angry
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Edited by TakeTheMates: 4/26/2019 12:55:58 AMI’ve got nearly a 3 k/d and have NF, guess somebody who had to “work really hard” to get a -blam!-ing Luna is better than me because I actually realize these guns were broken. Also, if you had to “work really hard”, please refrain from putting yourself in the “good players” bracket, because you’re ass.
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I looked up your stats and your KD is definitely not as you claim plus you play pvp with a set group whereas I solo queue. If you're going to compare my gameplay skill to yours then perhaps you should familiarize yourself with the concept of context. Are you disabled? Did you solo queue to get your pinnacle weapons? Lastly, I am also on PSN and if you'd like to see who is better then by all means send me a message and we can find out.
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Yeah and I’m “average” at pvp and still complain, I’m grinding my arse off this season for NF and guess what I won’t care for it getting nerfed, it’s gonna be an ace of spades in the energy slow with the recoil pattern of 180s do you not realise how good that is, just because you now can’t do as well in crucible with it doesn’t mean you need cry alone
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And now you're crying because you can't deal with a change in the meta. This is Destiny. Pinnacle weapons are always nerfed a bit. I have no doubt you'll earn the next pinnacle weapon and be just as happy with it. The meta revolves every few months. It's time for a change, because this is just stale. I'm surprised you aren't bored with it yourself.
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I am not ''crying,'' I am just tired of the endless capitulation that Bungie engages in that strengthens the resolve of the poorly skilled to not have to improve their skill sets while simultaneously not respecting the time and hard work that I and many others had to put in to earn these weapons. I think your statement about the meta being stagnant is correct to a degree but, like with what Bungo did with the XP throttling when the game was initially released, I am tired of having my time devalued.
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Haven't you heard? Communism is the new cool thing on the block. If they can't get it, neither should we. The perk nerf I could have lived with. But the RPM nerf was just -blam!-ing brain dead as it can get. I just earned it right before Revelry started. Delete your Recluse at this point too.
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Bring back SBMM .. boom problem solved , it's to much of I want my cake and eat it too.. there in lies the problem .. people grind for these weapons , then once they have them there is no place to take them but down into quick play and use them against players who are less skilled and don't have them .. then the typical retort is get better and PvP ( never say how or where ) and it's toxic for the player base .. So bring back SBMM so that new players and lesser skilled players have someplace to go and practice, add achievements and maybe training guantlets that promotes learning , like a combat simulator .. next add challenging PvP modes that require these weapons to participate in,for the top tier players and they too get challenges that can offer rewards that increase fire rated or gives you a special mod just for that weapon and an invitation to the next week's challenge , then as the season winds down and the pool of players get smaller , bungie can then stream the last group of players competition and a victor will be crowned at the end of the season
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I agree with you. Sbmm is necessary for the health of the game. If they want a complete free for all bring back Trials and make it constant instead of only weekends. Or just make the revolving mode every week (Rumble, Doubles, etc) sbmm. Give people who want it a place to go have fun. If Competitive wasn't such a dull playlist I'd go there.
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Yeah I mean the guns didn't need a nerf, I'm never in favor of nerfing a weapon, ever , but this mess is of bungies on making.. Ive always felt that for every action there is equal and possibly greater reaction and sometimes overreaction. That being said , with bungies split with Activision , I'm left wondering if they are looking at overall player participation and there might be a marked decline in PvP , because usually when pve content goes stale , players tend to head to PvP till the content drought is over and that's not happening , with the release of D3 coming and with it the future of the company hinged on it , they might be freaking out of a decline in PvP participation .. if players are not engaged in D2 , they might be less likely to buy D3
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I agree. SBMM is something that the pvp in this game desperately needs.
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Yeah , it was there them poof it magically vanished in March of 2017 .. but I still feel that if they give the players that earned the guns something to do with them after , it would solve most of the issues , a digital King of the mountain that would come with major bragging rights .. imagine if you could make it from the bottom all the way to the final round in a season .. like trials on steroids, with each weeks challenges getting significantly harder and harder , like removed supers , attrition , glass , hud removal , famine .. sky is the limit
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Damn.... a nice fck u from Bungie. Which is exactly why I hopped over to Division. I've enjoyed Destiny, grinded my azz solo to Luna and had to play smarter and get better in order to get it. I lost plenty of matches to NF, Luna... so I get it and I don't mind the change just to see some more weapons in crucible, but this is kind of phcked up for the people that had to grind through the old glory ranks and didn't get it via account recovs. What's really sad is the fact that a new meta will rise and people will complain and complain about that meta as well. Skilled players will use whatever works and that's that. I guess pulse rifles will make a comeback....as if we need another clever dragon, vigilance wing or graviton meta again.... this complaining about PvP will never end....
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I have Lunas, I think the nerf is 100% justified and extremely overdue.
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That's because you are a -blam!-.
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No, because balance. I have it too. Gotten at least 15 we rans with it. I don't want to always use the same guns. And it is too easy to use. Now? Still a precision, just with more damage. Sorry you can't spam win anymore. I felt dirty after a while doing it. So I switched to getting we rans with Ace :).
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Spam win? Making assumptions is not anything that even remotely resembles a sound argument. I rarely, if ever, even play pvp. I primarily use it in pve. In a few months, the babies tears will again overflow and Bungie will capitulate and the cycle of facilitating the poorly skilled and/or lazy will continue. I'd bet my life on it. This game will lose even more of it's players than it already has and shall continue to in the wake of this and similar behavior from the developer and the ever-shrinking playerbase.
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Yo, don't go ignoring everything I said because I said spam win. I meant the greater populace. That's how they fire it. I see it. I've lived it. I play Ib every time it's up. I'm a PvP player man, with a ton of matches. Those of us who still like the game like me? Nah we're gonna keep playing. Take breaks and all, but keep playing. I'm curious on how this will go! I'm an odd one that can we ran with age old bond, so this doesn't bother me too much.
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How mature You'd think the guy calling people babies would have a better response than that, but I guess I'm wrong.
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You haven't explained why you take your stance in response to my post so I kept my response straight and to the point.
