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Edited by Dark Raven 2501: 4/6/2019 9:42:46 PM
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#Remove enhancement cores from infusing

Come on bungie stop acting like a spoiled brat and save us all the time & frustration about enhancement cores and get rid of them from infusing. Edit: in 2016 bungie introduced ascendant light and it failed - then in 2018 they rename them masterwork cores and it failed again so they rename them again enhancement cores and they are still failing

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  • So I'm currently working my way through the expansions. I recently faced the Worm God on Mars. It was billed as an epic battle for the future of the universe. I went in there dressed like a clown and rocking the worst sidearm in Destiny history. I wanted to bring the best equipment for the fight - maybe an auto rifle, the oxygen that I grinded 80 strikes to get and my Thunderlord, while wearing a full set of the eververse titan gear. You know, play the game like I enjoy. Bungie's "meaningful choices" system gave me these options - run a sidearm, pulse, grenade launcher and pathetically comical armor (I mean seriously, he was in a pair of old leather boots with the laces undone), or the boss is immune to your damage. What a joke. Instead of enjoying myself in an epic battle for the universe, I just got frustrated at watching my guy constantly reloading a peashooter.

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      I've read through several responses of people defending infusion cores. Through scientific analysis and research I have simplified their arguments. "Don't infuse everything." = Just stop having fun. "I have 500 they're easy to get." = I don't have a job or responsibilities. "It's just the way the game is now suck it up." = I walked both ways up the hill to school without shoes in the winter. "Crybaby." = I'm probably a crybaby irl. "Cores are fine. They're not an issue for me." = I'm the only one who matters that is playing this game. Everyone else is wrong.

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      • Anyone wonder what these Bungie Fan-Boys were saying during the 4 years BEFORE Enhancement Cores were added? Yup, thought so!

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        • It’s a damn shame that this is like the 20th post about removing enhancement cores from infusion. All of them have had 500+ upvotes. Some of them even in the thousands of upvotes. Even so Bungie will not listen to the fans that play this game. Streamers have even commented their distaste with enhancement cores and infusion. I’m not going to continue to support a game that doesn’t even consider fans that play the game. This is also not a small group of people with concerns. Bungie will not even come with a reasonable and logical alternative to the issue. If they do not care why should I? I think the whole situation is a shame.

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          • Edited by exalted_lemonade: 4/7/2019 1:08:55 AM
            Odds are nothing is going to be removed. However don’t get mad at the guy in cubicle 7 who works on map design. Be upset with the management at Bungie, and their unwillingness to budge. Another note to consider is that maybe cores can’t be removed. Maybe on a technical basis Bungie can’t remove them. I’ve heard multiple times that the engine they use is not user friendly. Bungie employees have said that “making content is hard” and “if you want to change one thing then it could take eight hours to load a single map.” I’m not upset with the actual designers, I’m upset that management has been so neglectful to the wishes of the community.

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            • Edited by TheShadow-cali: 4/6/2019 1:18:47 AM
              They were added for a couple of poor reasons and if anyone is honest with themselves and actually pays attention to the game they're playing, it's in plain sight. Most of the ones that defend this companies poor actions are the ones that play out of habit and don't really care about the direction the game has headed, mainly because they never play any other games and they (will just accept) whatever Bungie does no matter how wrong it actually is. [spoiler]This company has barely put any real effort into this Annual Pass to get the game moving forward. The minimal effort that has been put into this game is the issue. I find it funny how some think because this company added one or 2 weapons to the game that they call that "adding loot" to the loot pool when things like vendors, a few events, etc... use to get a few weapons and gear sets. Only one set a season and a weapon here and there.[/spoiler] I don't care what anyone says, there is no justifying the lack of effort put into this game when adding loot to it that is more so in cosmetics that (most) literally do not care for than to actually adding loot that is useful to chase. [spoiler]This is pure nonsense as a developer that is creating a loot based game that has been working on this project since 2007 with everything they know about D1, and no matter how much anyone likes this game it's unreasonable to not create an actual decent loot pool in this game. After The Taken King released this company started working on actually adding loot to D1 and it started with the April update and when ROI dropped the game had more than enough loot to chase with everything that was updated and most of it wasn't just useless cosmetics that they fill the, Oh so special Tess with and do every single DLC leaving everything else in this game to rote.[/spoiler] From what is going around about y3 being another "Annual Pass", Bungie's second "community summit", looking at what little effort that was put into this Annual pass as far as a loot based game goes, and Bungie saying they're not doing expansions anymore. How does not putting real effort into this game as they did with ROI or the April update acceptable knowing ROI has a better loot system that they added a lot of loot to chase plus ( Motes of light ) that has a multipurpose? I don't get how people think the cores in this game serve a purpose knowing they are literally nothing compared to Motes of light that actually improved your Guardian.

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              • What a surprise, as soon as a post about Enhancement Cores makes over 500-600 upvotes, it starts to drop down the list. Shady. Just like every other thing you’ve tried to pull over the years. https://www.bungie.net/St/Forums/Post/242016651

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                • Elitists are paranoid of casuals catching up to their level of account wide infusion.

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                  • 100% agree its one of most stupidest things in D2, bunge doesn't want us to lvl up too fast?!

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                    • What makes me laugh are the people who come to these posts with passive aggressive tips like “learn how to manage cores or don’t infuse everything” You people really think players haven’t gone to YouTube to learn how to farm cores and level efficiently??? Infusing my favourite gear season after season IS NOT AN IMPACTFUL DECISION! It’s a bad system, it’s that simple.

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                      • Oh not this rubbish again

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                        • Edited by Ant Heuser Kush: 4/11/2019 9:24:59 PM
                          Remove them. Masterwork Cores for... wait for it... Masterworking gear was just fine. This is a silly, uneeded roadblock. The hardcore just wanna defend their power level: "I'm 700 and you're not good enough to be 700. Learn how to manage your cores." Like power level actually means anything... people just want to be able to bring their favorites with them and have more than one loadout. I'll never understand how people can defend this trash system. Leveling up isn't meaningful, it's just leveling up. Masterworking is what should matter and not a lot of people are doing that.

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                        • Nah. Its fine. Just learn to manage basic resources. https://i.imgur.com/HtOdhaG.jpg

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                          • I don't think they need to be removed, my suggestion is fully masterworked items won't need cores to infuse. Also give us more cores for the activities we play. I play mainly Crucible, and adding cores to possible end of match rewards, or a couple to each bounty completion.

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                            • Edited by Tis-but-a-scratch: 4/8/2019 12:55:26 AM
                              I have plenty and continue to horde more. I despise these cores because they cause me to horde and not spend. Best thing to do now is horde gunsmith materials cause I promise they are going to screw this up and make them precious. I guarantee you they looked at the data and saw how many people have and that’s why they chose them. And I also guarantee you they will make these bounties cost much more than they should. For everyone out there with your worthless don’t spend them on everything arguments. We all get that. ITS THE ECONOMY THAT WAS PURPOSELY HYPERINFLATED BY BUNGIE THAT WE HAVE ISSUES WITH. I don’t want to spend my time playing to get cores. I want to play the way I want and get cores as I do that.

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                            • It’s like that sore in their Dev team’s butt that they could never get rid of.

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                            • What was ascendant light? You mean etheric light or ascendant energy/shards? Etheric light was amazing. Do the hardest content In the game to get an item that immediately raises an item"s light to max level. And the ascendant materials were for upgrading raid gear alone. I consider both of those systems to have been successes. Etheric light was so popular and successful in fact that bungie felt it was overpowered and turned it into the infusion system we have today.

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                              • Edited by Howard MoonXLII: 4/7/2019 12:21:49 AM
                                I have resigned myself to the fact that they (enhancement cores) are most likely not going anywhere. Bungie is being particularly stubborn about this for some reason, and I've had to learn how to work with the system we have. Am I happy with the current system? No. Would I like to see them removed from infusion? Yes. Do I think Bungie is going to change this system anytime soon? Unfortunately, no, I don't see things changing. I'm just hoping having more reliable sources will help, although I don't see why scrapper bounties are being removed. They should stay alongside the addition of gunsmith bounties. More sources should equal less issues with them.

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                              • Enhancement cores are crap. In the original implementation they were called Masterwork Cores. Those were “engaging”, as they provided options to make both our guns and our armor more useful. I’m fine if they revert back to the original model. The E.C. system merely provides artificial barriers to subclass optimization and prevents us from Masterworking our gear.

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                              • 😀👍

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                              • And your still here complaining about it. Looks like bungie wins to me.

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                                • When I was a kid it was Exotic Shards and it worked cause Xur had them and you only got it from breaking down Exotics! No one constantly had too many cause infusing so much, no one really ran out cause they had options. Then Enhancement Cores is what good? You might wanna add an edit to remind Bungie that.

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                                  • The people that defend enhancement cores are in the minority so I wouldn’t be surprised when a change comes.

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                                    • While I am sure the employees at Bungie are intelligent, they are acting rather daft. It's been the number one most requested community change for half a year now, and it is basically entirely ignored. Using "creates an impactful choice for infusion" is not a viable excuse, as infusing was never the most impactful thing to begin with.

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                                      • Edited by bandito--24: 4/6/2019 3:08:29 PM
                                        requiring cores for infusion is awful

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                                        • Will forever upvote

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