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11/13/2018 9:02:03 AM
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Stacked teams are not unfair. Calling for people to not play together is unfair.
I’ve played sports pretty much my whole life. During that time, I have been on the wrong side of some serious drubbings. Other times we were laying the beats. Sometimes the games were close. There were times were my teammates let me down and times were I let them down.
It’s just the way it is.
Sometimes in competition beatings happen and very good teams feast on weaker teams. Every match isn’t gonna be a even. We would like for it to be that way but a variety of factors can sway that. If a person is a deadly three point shooter, I can’t expect him to not shoot the 3. If a person is a tough defender I can’t expect him to not defend to appease me or my team.
I relate this to the crucible.
Going against a (insert number) stack team isn’t unfair. It’s competition. Why should a team of players be punished because they play well together and smoke everybody? If I go to the park to play some ball and I have a squad with me, my chances of winning are higher than playing with pick up randoms. Quickplay and Competitive is no different. Yes, they may have an advantage but we still have to go out there an play. From there anything can happen.
QP and Comp are team games. Despite what you may want to believe they are. I get it that some may not have a team to play with. Fair enough.
Why punish or knock the people that do?
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1 ReplySo a professional NFL team playing against a group of people thrown together at the last minute would be a fair match, right? Let's just be real. You're bad and need friends to carry you, but don't want to feel bad about it so you mask it with all this mess.
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3 RepliesThe issue isn't people playing in groups, it's matchmaking putting teams of randoms against them.
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17 RepliesOverwatch is team-based game, and "for some reason" their system prioritizes putting similar sized groups to play against each other. [quote]The majority of our matches are comprised of either all solo players or solo players and players grouped with one other person. However, the system does try to match groups of equal sizes together first and foremost. As the time people wait grows, we expand the search to try to find others for them to play with. This means that occasionally we will match groups with players who are not grouped or in a group size that is smaller than their own. Like I mentioned, this is exceedingly rare but can happen. And that match is only made when players have crossed a waiting threshold that we deem too long. For most group matches a group of 6 is placed against another group of 6.[/quote] https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20745504371#post-3
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No one is saying not to play with friends, but if your a full 6, you should be matched with a similar composiution. not 6 randoms. And vice versa, if you are solo, you should be matched with a similar composition, not a full stack of 6. there are enough players for this so its not like it cant be done. Just Bungie isnt enabling this osrt of MM. THats what people want. Nothing more, nothing less
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9 RepliesYour logic is a little flawed. Competition would be putting like skilled players against each other. Putting teams against teams, randoms against randoms. You say it's unfair to punish players that play in fireteams, but what do you think it is for randoms to play against fireteams? It seems pretty clear that while playing in a fireteam doesn't mean victory, it definitely means an advantage. At least whenever playing a team of randoms. The intimidation factor alone causes players to quit on the random team quite often.
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6 RepliesEdited by standto2004: 11/13/2018 12:40:17 PMYou played a lot of sports. Did your high school JV team play a pro team? Did you meet a group of random people at the park for flag football and play the Rams? You versus Floyd Mayweather is technically a “competition” but I bet you wouldn’t be down for it. I watch the queue and see two 3 stacks and 6 randos. Get in match and it the two 3 stacks against the randos. Most matches one team seems to have 3 or 4 really good players and the other team has 1 really good player and most matches are blowouts. Quick play and even competitive are not team based. You can solo, duo or 4/6 stack. Trials is team based, only teams can load into trials. Teams however grant an advantage. Maybe Bungie could match a three stack on each team with the randos. Or 6 stack versus two three stacks. I don’t think teams should have any longer of a wait for a match, if there are no other teams the the solo players will face the stack but as it is it appears there is absolutely NO attempt by Bungie to implement any kind of balanced matchmaking. Having a team face another team is the definition of a fair match and isn’t a punishment for the team.
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2 RepliesYour sports analogy misses 1 key component. Leagues. Port Vale are not in the same league and forced to play Chelsea every week.
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2 RepliesSo youve played sports for two years?
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1 ReplyStacked teams do it cowardly though. They matchmake but wait to see if it goes from 4 to 5 then to 6 and so on and stay but if it goes from 4 to 8 they leave to avoid actual competition.
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4 RepliesWell just check out the LFG on this App - always people recruiting full stack teams 2kd+ etc, for Quickplay farming- that’s the kind of sh1t that everyone is complaining about.
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12 RepliesEdited by BrokenG3ars: 11/13/2018 9:44:32 AMImplement solo queue option. Problem solved. Simplest thing in the world but Bungie refuses to do it.
