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Edited by pValue2010:
10/5/2018 7:27:14 PM
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Girl refuses to stand for the pledge of allegiance and gets expelled.
Do you think this is right?
Furthermore, the Texas Attorney General is intervening on the school’s behalf.
I find this appalling.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/09/28/pledge-allegiance-law-texas-attorney-general-student-expelled/1440878002/
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I honestly do not care. Let the school do what it wants. One school causing hate is not a problem for us to discuss
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4 RepliesI think expelling her is a little overly excessive, but schools have rules. The article states that Texas has a rule that students must recite the Pledge of Allegiance, unless they have a parent or guardians permission. If schools allowed students to pick and choose which rules they want to follow it will make teaching them hard to do. Free Speech isnt an excuse as the school has a way for her to opt out which she could have checked before acting. I am on the side of the school as rules must be followed but think the punishment is overly excessive.
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137 RepliesYes it is right. It is the law in Texas that she stand. Kids need to learn (especially now-a-days) that if you break the law, there will be repercussions.
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Edited by MisterPugly: 10/9/2018 12:10:46 AMThis is the land of the free and so help me baby Jesus if you prevent me from making you free I will take you down No, this isn’t right. But it also isn’t surprising, patriotic behavior is like a dick measuring contest except if you’re not participating you’re a traitor and should be ostracized. People like that flag way too much.
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Here in America we're forced to stand up because freedom is an illusion!
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2 RepliesHere in America we stand the fu ck up cause we ain't no commies
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2 RepliesEdited by Ogma: Destroyer of Worlds: 10/6/2018 6:27:33 PMNope. It always seems like the people that are all “Murica freedom” are the same ones that get so angry about stuff like this. Like respect, patriotism is earned. Not enforced. There are words for the act of attempting to enforce patriotism.....
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Would you really want to be educated at an institution that acted that way towards free speech?
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Another example of the alt-right suppressing free speech.
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[u][b][i]*AMERICA INTENSIFIES*[/i][/b][/u]
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2 RepliesHaha. Hilarious. Literally this is to funny. I went to private school up until college, so saying the Pledge and morning prayers was a daily drag. No biggie whats 10 minutes out of my morning to recite nothing but words. In middle school we sang both the national pledge and national anthem at the end of the morning congregation before classes. My fourth grade teacher back then also had us sing Texas O' Texas. I personally believe children are undisciplined these days. Sure though, let our future proprietors of society continue to grow within unruly habitats and be held without contempt. Bravo, god bless America.
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Think the ACLU might have something to say about it.
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7 RepliesI wonder how many people here supported that lady who refused to do marriage licenses for gays because of religious reasons.
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3 RepliesEdited by Section Ratio General: 10/5/2018 8:45:27 PMWere it a private school, then I would have said that if it were in the rules of the school to stand up during the pledge, then the school would have been in the right. However, the school listed is a public school, so it sounds more like an attack on the 1st Amendment. But, let's be real here. After high school barring the military and organizations that require someone to stand for the pledge, has anyone here actually stood up for the pledge and recited it on their own volition? I'm going to just put it out here that I haven't done this willingly or have thought of standing for the pledge in almost a decade, but if someone were to ask me to stand for the pledge, I wouldn't mind doing it. Edit: I've learned at least one of the people in this forum takes the internet too seriously too. Lol.
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Wait, this is for real? You bloody yanks and Texans are radical.
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I don't even stand like any times at all, i mainly just keep sitting on my laptop
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Freedom my arse.
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[quote]Do you think this is right? Furthermore, the Texas Attorney General is intervening on the school’s behalf. I find this appalling. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/09/28/pledge-allegiance-law-texas-attorney-general-student-expelled/1440878002/[/quote] Good.
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Well, education is a privilege. Apparently, it's a privilege that can be forfeited by merely refusing to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. It's a situation that is not much different than someone being banned from a social media platform for expressing dissenting political ideologies. Social media platform use is a privilege that may be forfeited by merely posting the story of Walt Heyer.
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ITT: an authoritarian circle jerk. Oh and I think that's going a little too far and seems like an emotional reaction.
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I think that is way over the line, maybe tell her to stand but expelled is ridiculously far.
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7 RepliesThis argument in a nut shell.... I'm aghast that this childs first amendment rights are being infringed upon. How can the government do that!?! Meanwhile in courts across the country you can be held in contempt of court. Y'all are silly
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1 ReplySurprised it's not the death penalty in Texas 🤦♂️
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Whether it’s “right” or not is a moral question. The law of Texas states you must stand for the pledge of allegiance, or face consequences. She chose to follow her conviction (what she believed to be right) and faced the consequences. Personal opinion: [spoiler]I don’t believe laws that require one to commit allegiance to your country are moral. I find it to be much more akin to control of rebellion through suppression of individuality. Why would they do that? Money. Power. The usual things the government enjoys pursuing. But as a Christian, the Bible commands that I live under and respect the authority of those who rule over me (so the moral, not legislative law, guides my obedience). [quote]For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.[/quote] However, this doesn’t mean you are to keep silent about true or perceived injustice. This girl believed the moral law (justice for all, for example) was being dismantled by the law of the land (justice deferred to those with special treatment). [/spoiler]
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Wow, coming from a pro American hater of libtards that’s not right
