Here we -blam!-ing go.. we end up with 1 -blam!-ing gun that's dominant over every other gun pound for pound. It's good at close quarters and it's a beast at range. Not to mention it has an aoe effect that hits for around 100 hp if your teammate gets smacked. Lol bungie couldn't -blam!-ing balance a piece of paper on the kitchen table.
Edit: let me make this very clear since ppl obviously missed the point. I'm not asking for a nerf. I'm not saying these guns are over powered. I'm saying I want variety. Having guns with a 0.9, 0.8 ttk is great. What's not great is most other guns are around 1 to 1.2 second kill times.
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Thorn was way more overpowered than any weapon seen thus far in D2. I remember HoW PvP.
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2 Replies[quote]Not to mention it has an aoe effect that hits for around 100 hp if your teammate gets smacked. [/quote] When six players line up like a 19th century battlefield, death by AOE effect seems like a fitting end. "You can play like a team without being up each other's butts." - Barack H Obama.
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If anything kinetic SMG's need to be toned down ex. Antiope D, since they enable so much Graviton usage. Handcannon's need to be buffed already so people move around the map, tired of this MIDA camp fest to Grav and Vigilance camp fest.
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Not even, Vigilance wing rocks as well. In fact I prefer VW. Also it's logical that there will always be one gun more dominant than another in terms of TTK, its just reality dude.
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7 RepliesFalse.
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1 ReplyIf Bungie/ Activision are looking for new revenue streams, have Tess Eververse sell me a filter to weed out crucible players from the forums. Their whining is doing more to turn me off the game than any $10 emote ever could.
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12 RepliesWell that's a load of bullshit.
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4 RepliesNothings close to any D1 meta, the bitching never ends with you nerfherders.
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36 RepliesNot even close, Thorn only really had 1 concrete counter in Red Death. Graviton is countered by entire weapon classes at multiple ranges. You have summoned me.
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Not even close genius
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16 RepliesAs long as there is a half decent weapon in the game, the nerfherders will complain about it.
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Nowhere close dude
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get a different game.. stop crying
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2 RepliesNot... even... close... FYI: We do not speak the name of T#0Rn. Less its evil be resummoned upon us, and we ENTER INTO A NIGHTMARISH APOCLYPSE!
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Absolute load of crap.
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I’ve never really had issues, with a hc or a decent auto I can usually win. Also, Vigilance Wing can beat it 9/10 times.
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And also unlike thorn grav doesnt give me PTSD
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1 ReplyHave you tries Skyburner's Oath in pvp? That gun can be a beast!
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1 ReplyI think there is plenty of variety. I never use the meta and compete, there are a lot of options people just don’t want to use them or there play styles don’t complement anything else. Just get a streamer to declare something else is good, boom new meta. The vw and gl are not over powered at all.
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A good counter to graviton is a gun that not a lot of people know about. But this pulse shreds. It’s Autumn Winds. This pulse rifle will shred through opposition. I’m not kidding you. I use this pulse rifle along with graviton 😬. But this is a good counter to graviton because it shoots so dang fast.
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Thorn, so despised that we (those of us who didn’t use it) are STILL glad it’s gone.
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I cry every time I go to play Iron Banner. I either don’t see it or see every dude using one and I get -blam!-ed with it across the map. ):
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no its the graviton lance of d2, thorn dont exist