The raid isn't hard, it is garbage though. And crucible is shit.

Like this if you think OP is complaining about other people complaining. [spoiler][i]Salt mine, enter here[/i][/spoiler]

People complain, cry, and rage. Why can't they normally state what's wrong in the feedback forum? Why do they make threats, and get mad over a VIDEO GAME?

Hey doofus, Imagine Destiny is a temp at your office. Destiny gets you coffee Destinys coffee is absolute greedy shit at first, he takes more than half the money you give him for himself, lies about it and brings back coffee grinds and cold water in a cup. Over three years Destiny finally figures out how to get coffee, not fancy pumpkin spice frappadingdong, just -blam!-ing coffee that you've explained over and over how to make. You go on summer vacation, get back to the office and what the -blam!-, Destiny's handing you a cup with a pinecone in it. Like wtf Destiny, it's not that -blam!-ing complicated to make a basic cup of coffee, it's been 3 YEARS. I hope dumbing it down with this coffee metaphor helps you understand how far off point OP is and why this whole game/studio/developpers is whack and not worth any sane persons time <3

People have the right to complain, they bought the product and if they feel it doesn't meet the standards set by destiny 1 then they will voice that opinion. There is a lot of genuine concerns at the moment. They set the standards in destiny 1 and now it seems like a lot of features got cut and people aren't happy about it. 1. Heroic strikes 2. No wave arena like archons forge. 3. No strike specific loot 4. Punishing revive system in the raid. Etc etc. Point is, if you are blindly following then you aren't helping the game improve.

I think that a lot of peoples complaints have to do with the fact that by the end of destiny 1 a lot of stuff was finally done well, and then cone destiny 2 they did away with a lot of stuff that just doesnt make much sense. The biggest example of this to me would be the vault/kiosk system, it was lookin pretty good (still needed some extra space in the vault but not bad), then come destiny 2 the vault is an absolute mess, kiosks like ones for ships and sparrows are suddenly no where to be seen, it makes absolutely no sense. And before you say well just give destiny 2 time, it took destiny 1 a while to get it right, it isnt like they suddenly lost the assets or programming from destiny 1, they just simply chose to do it differently. The sequel is meant to build on the games that came before it, no screw up what the previous versions got right. If it was a completely new IP then that would be one thing, but it isnt. Another example is the resource cooldown, something that wasnt in destiny 1 and makes no sense to add into destiny 2. All this mechanic serves to do is make finishing the planet challenges extremely tedious and annoying. Some will say it is to stop people from getting to much rep with a faction but that makes little sense due to two major reasons. First off coins are worth far more then resources, and coins are far easier to get and farm, second having a ton of rank ups with a faction doesnt really mean much especially after about power level 270, since no gear that they give will come close to equaling your power level, and it isnt like they have some super special gear to give out. It is again a decision that makes absolutely no sense, and it is logical that people would send in complaints about it, people would like the game they enjoy playing to be improved and sometimes people feel the only way to be heard is to yell (and sometimes be very angry). It is the same reasoning behind people who go and participate in very loud protests and why said protests sometimes breakout into riots.

Raid is great, loot is mostly useless. Everything else is dumbed down. Story is shit. Crucible is lame. Did I mention that the "faction event" is as lame as the vanilla queens bounties!?

It is shit knowing this company has been slacking for the last couple years. Free to play gaming companies put a hell of a lot more effort then this lazy nonsense.

Awe is the little baby having a fit because people said things about her favourite game?

And that's why I'm waiting a year or two to get everything at $39.99 plus tax

I dont understand why people are saying "Nightfall is hard" & "Leviathan is too hard" ITS ENDGAME CONTENT, its meant to be a challenge, It is made so your team can develop a chemistry & work together.

Its the fact all this was done in destiny 1 that is the problem. They spent 3 years improving that game only to remove pretty much all of them in destiny 2. People are right to complain.

I'm complaining sometimes but won't take it to the forums. This game has it's flaws, like any other, but it's still lots of fun. 3 x 305 signing off.

Lol so when people come up with valid arguments you tell them to hush? Go to your safe space because you surely are defending them with their piss poor capabilities. I like this franchise but please believe I want to see it do well [b]from the start[/b]. Not this BS "wait a few weeks for them to smooth it out shit" that you want. I want to see them retain key features from previous installments that made the game great, not resell it later in a dlc. Their business practices are suspect at best and possibly despicable at worst.

I was checking into a hotel last week in Orlando. The 30ish obese white guy in front of me was straight up yelling at the 90lb Asian chic behind the counter because the air purifier he had in his room was NOT the one he had at home. No shit, the loser was complaining about air...for 30 minutes. It took the people waiting in line to finally give him the what for to stop. That is the kind of "men" who I imagine is left on these forums , complaining . I bet I'm not far off.

This world is starting to become nothing but complainers, I just can't wait till the world is nuked