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Vote on Weapon System [Bungie Hear Us]

I prefer Destiny 1 weapon system

2476

I prefer Destiny 2 weapon system

2503

I'm neutral on both and will play whichever

1615

Here's your shot, get this bitch trending! The point of this poll isn't to review the system as it relates to the full release. It's to hear current impressions post the BETA. [spoiler] inb4bungiedoesn'tlisten [/spoiler] *EDIT* We have some great discussion and feedback in this thread. Thank you Guardians!
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  • Interesting. Support seems even for both systems. Almost as if the game is split into PvP and PvE. [spoiler]I know not everyone that likes PvE wants the system from D1/not all PvP players want the D2 system, but that does seem to be the general preference [/spoiler] I prefer the D1 system of primary, secondary heavy. But I've been playing that for almost 3 years, it's what I'm used to. There weren't enough good weapon choices from the beta to make a proper comparison, but it'll be interesting to see how it plays once we have access to more gear.

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  • The new system is great if you're a PvP sweathog...For the rest of us it sucks and is fairly bland. Gone are the days of just running through strikes and having fun just using a shotty or a fusion rifle plus abilities (no primary challenge) or having to decide if you should use a sniper or not to go with your heavy. Pve took a big hit with the weapons change and it sucks.

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  • I'm neutral as long as good weapons don't get nerfed into the ground cry babie entitled asshole children

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  • First we get energy based primaries from raids. Then they take them away. Made em exotics. And now they're secondaries?! Seriously, Bungie, make up your mind. I feel like this was/is two things... One being change for the sake of change and the other being that this is just testing for D3's weapon system. On topic: I don't like D2's weapon system. Why? It completely ruins my loadouts and playstyle. A playstyle that took me a long while to find, build, and hone. Second reason why I don't like it... There's way too many weapon classes in the power weapon archetype. 6 confirmed, right? MG, Sniper, RL, FR, Shotty, and the new GL class. 7 when you include Swords. LOL Goodbye heavy weapon diversity. Hello Gjallarhorns only!!!... again. P.S. Leme see a reddit poll instead. Everyone knows this forum is only like 1% of the Desticle Community.

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    • EASY FIX.. New system for pvp... Old system for pve. Everyone wins

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        really....who like the D2 weapon system!? IT'S HORRIBLE

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        • That moment when you realize you could have both if pvp and PvE were balanced separately.

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          • I'm in the boat of players who are strongly against the new weapon system, and I will admit that as any game developer, seeing your community almost split down the middle is not a good sign of something that is beneficial to the game. From my perspective, games are meant to be about having fun, and let's be honest, that's the main reason why we play games. After playing three years of Destiny 1 under the old weapon system, it sort of became the standard of the game and something that honestly felt solidified as how the game plays and how it should play moving forward. And don't throw the snipefest argument at me, most PvE players actually enjoyed this system, and TBH, I would typically use all of the special weapons in my PvE experience based on what activity I was playing. So enter the beta, where we're given a weapon system that takes away one of the stronger weapon slots and replaces it with a very weak weapon, and then mashes all of the fun weapons into a singular slot. This did not sound like fun when they revealed it at the event, and going into the beta with an open mind, it sure as heck was not fun to play with either. It's quite obvious from how much this topic has been discussed here that many people see it as a negative part of the game moving forward as well. So now we come to the obvious, why the poll is so split down the middle to begin with. Well, a majority of the players (And I will just say majority here), who are in favor of the new system are PvP oriented players who don't give a damn about how weapons perform in the PvE sandbox, and let's be serious, they never cared because they don't play it. It's also completely obvious that the only players who even come out in vocal masses here usually, are the PvP players when they need to complain about a specific weapon, or class ability that they keep dying to, and then becomes a standard of use among players. Most of the PvE oriented players only ever come here to complain when a balance adjustment ruins a part of the experience for them, or if something is in need of fixing, and then just don't bother coming back until a new content update is announced. The fact that you have a dead split tells me that even the PvP community is divided about this change, and with a harder majority of PvE players proven to being against this, I do not see the above numbers as accurate. A really good case for my point was to simply analyze the happening of the Destiny Reddit a week ago, when the entire front page was literally covered with topics stating how the game being balanced together led to this change, and how many people were against it. There were thousands of votes for those topics, and combined, could easily break the 10,000 mark. To see only a fraction of that number here does not dictate a proper sampling of the community voice as a whole, which tells me that "the usual bunch" are the only voices being spoken for here. I would honestly be more interested in another question, ask the players who have canceled their pre-order and have no desire to play this game why they did it. I think you'll get the answer to this poll right from there. Therefore, I'm just going to come out and say it, but your poll proves the point that many of us are saying here. This is a bad change for the game, and it needs to be undone.

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            • boring and dull IMO. i play destiny for fun and because i like making plays with the fun to use weapons and the awesome abilities that helped us "become legend" in the first game. the whole new system, weapons and abilities, changes the fundamentals of the game. destiny was a unique experience as it was a first person shooter with MMO elements and this whole abilities and super charge concept which has never been done before in any other AAA fps release like halo or call of duty. is was something new- and i enjoyed it. the game was about fun. using your abilities to do sick things and- to return to the point- using your special ammo to do bring something new to the battlefield. but now the new special ammo- power ammo- is a fight with your teammates of Who Can Push The Other Guy Away From The Ammo So I Can Get It. other than that its just primary gunfights which are fun at times and are certainly more of a test of skill than special duels but i feel like they are too forced in destiny 2, at least what we saw in the beta. in my opinion the current special ammo system in destiny 1 is perfect, minus some armor pieces that give an unfair ammo advantage and obviously workarounds like ice breaker and sidearms.

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              • D2 felt like they took one of my guns away. We now have 2 guns that have the same purpose, killing normal adds. They took away a gun for killing tough adds.

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                • They are going to have to give ridiculous buffs to shotguns, snipers, and fusion rifles. What's even the point of using them over a rocket launcher?

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                  • I like the destiny 2 weapons system. Now we dnt have endless shotguns and snipers for ppl to camp either far away (snipers) or in tight spaces (with shotguns) you actually have to work to earn the ammo for it which means u have to get in the mix and not just fall back and enjoy picking ppl off at a distance. I love it (I'm more of a PvP kinda player too, just FYI)

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                  • Edited by TheMellowHero: 7/29/2017 11:23:24 PM
                    Seriously, please don't change it. Hand cannon + scout felt soooo good. Basically I can have: Saterienne Rapier + Fatebringer (Adept) + New Fusions with like 10 ammo in the mag!?!?!? WTF Bungie! That's exactly what I wanted in Destiny-Life Now just bring back Plan C and you can have my Fry-Bits for life!

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                  • PvP shotguners are the ones salty about it. I could care less what weapons are where. Skilled players can take what they're given and still be a force to be reckoned with. The ones that can't come here to cry about it.

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                    • PvP is definitely easier to balance with the D2 system but PvE is more fun with the D1 system

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                    • Its good 4 pvp but it is terrible 4 pve

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                    • Just stopping by again... D2 still in the lead haha

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                    • [quote]Here's your shot, get this bitch trending! The point of this poll isn't to review the system as it relates to the full release. It's to hear current impressions post the BETA. [spoiler] inb4bungiedoesn'tlisten [/spoiler] *EDIT* We have some great discussion and feedback in this thread. Thank you Guardians![/quote] Destiny 2 weapons system

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                    • For PvP it's an excellent idea and 2 primaries promote gunplay. For pve it makes the enemies feel more tanky, that's why not too many people enjoyed the strike because the boss took hella days to kill with 2 primaries. Without a sniper or shotgun to rapidly DPS the boss he felt very tanky and very slow and boring to fight and without power ammo it pronounced this very seriously. Will all bosses be like this without power ammo? Give us ammo and supers to kill enemies faster. Give us the power back because right now we have none

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                    • This poll was too vague. For pve, it sucks. For PvP, sure, whatever.

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                    • Bungie will not change it. So stop bitching or don't buy the game. ~ Making America Great Again ~

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                      • Who the hell cares

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                      • I prefer the D1 system only because of special weapons. Making some of my favorite guns heavy that rarely drops makes the game less fun in my opinion. I want to use those weapons more in over and crucible, and I'm kinda upset to see them do that. If they increased the spawn rates of power ammo, this would fix the problem entirely, and the new system maybe more appreciated

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                      • Can you tell how many individuals actually voted here?... I can see the % but that doesn't tell me if 200 voted... or 2000.

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                        • [quote]Here's your shot, get this bitch trending! The point of this poll isn't to review the system as it relates to the full release. It's to hear current impressions post the BETA. [spoiler] inb4bungiedoesn'tlisten [/spoiler] *EDIT* We have some great discussion and feedback in this thread. Thank you Guardians![/quote] [url=http://www.example.com] e2[/url]

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                        • 1. People asked for elemental primaries back. We now have elemental primaries. People are crying. Derp. 2. People need to stop seeing it as "two primaries". Think of it as your main weapon for shooting anything that moves and an elemental weapon for mofos with shields. 3. I think most people are crying because they're struggling to get out of the D1 mindset of "I have sniper, I must sit at back of map and snipe boss in head till dead".

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