Last night ran into some people using the shoulder charge glitch to win a lighthouse game. What are your thoughts on this type of tactic openly being used and abused.
[spoiler]Ninja Edit: I've taken the liberty of removing the gaming account names of the person(s) who you stated were cheating.
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27 RepliesAnyone using the following is a cheater: A mouse and keyboard A lag switch Net Tools Other network traffic manipulation software Controller mods Net Duma or equivalent router which allows you to set regional match making A red dot on your tv/monitor And any other non standard way of playing. Scuffs and Elite controllers are ok.
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Lab are a joke among elite players. They bitch about everything everyone they play against does, but always use the cheapest tactics themselves. Common knowledge. That being said, it's not cheating. It's on the developer to fix shit. It should be expected that players competing at a high level will use all the tools available to them to win. You might think it makes them scrubs but the real scrub is the one who doesn't adapt. But that doesn't mean they aren't bitches for using such a cheap tactic. Actually they glorified it, making a youtube video on how to do it. Don't get me wrong, they're good players. A lot better than I'll ever be. But I can't play trials 50+hours a week either.
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1 ReplyThey should be publicly executed by a sleeper simulant firing squad
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Only thing worse than steamers are the sycophants who fawn over them.
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8 RepliesWow. Well I'll be unfollowing them. I honestly had no idea that shoulder charge thing was even a thing. The fact that a big time streamer abuses that shit is sad. And I love the end of that clip. Dude uses something that's not suppose to be in the game, "GOOD Fing PLAY DOoooD.
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1 ReplyWatched the vid and LOLed at who it was. Those dude's aren't that good in the first place. One of them is average, maybe slightly above, the other one is so bad he makes me look good.
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Edited by BeoWulfTheRipper: 5/17/2017 2:27:52 AMthose guys sank really low. they are very talented and don't need to resort to those tactics. they probably won't get banned and sad part is they'll get more viewers for promoting exploits. sad, but true. btw, you should have a 4th option, "All of the above". prob would get the most votes.
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3 RepliesWell, since you've been ninja sliced and assuming the ninja watched the video we should get a patch for this glitch fairly soon. That's also assuming the ninja showed the video to the people who can fix it.
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2 RepliesMy thoughts?..... Trials=Trash Crucible=not balanced, and certainly not competitive. The crucible is a failed abortion who's birth certificate is an apology letter from the condom factory. So with that being said....... Trials is just an arms race of cheap crappy tactics to get to the light house with little effort. So if you're playing that mode, unfortunately that's the BS you're subscribed to. Fight fire with fire. Armor of Light bubble train over the cap point, don't even try shooting.
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2 RepliesBungie: we hear you loud and clear and yes blade dancers invisible perks are annoying to deal with so we will be putting a nerf on it where anytime invis is in effect the player will take 2x damage
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2 RepliesGlitch?
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4 RepliesJust because it's cheap doesn't mean it's cheating. Streaming has nothing to do with it either.
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1 ReplyTo me it's no different than deliberately using the quiver glitch. Shoulder charge should be removed from the game until it's fixed. It's that simple.
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4 RepliesDont think it should be a banable offense just because its a glitch in the game code and not someone deliberately messing with networking or something along those lines still cheap tho if people want to do that in normal crucible thats fine who cares but in trials where someone might be trying to go for the first time its just low
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How easily can you pull off the "glitch" yourself? Does said glitch require hand/finger skill?
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What's the glitch...?
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It's in the game, fair. But if you're actually good you wouldn't need it to win.
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1 ReplyIt's a game. It's a glitch. Just have fun, don't take trials so seriously. Besides, if you ran into these guys then you were gonna lose.
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Not really a detailed enough poll though is it. It's not cheating per se and most certainly doesn't warrant any form of a ban. Doesn't mean it's not a dick move for streamers, ie, people who are good enough to not need to resort to exploits, to do.
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3 RepliesThe shoulder charge exploit ISN'T CHEATING.I think some of you need to learn the difference between a cheat and an exploit. Crybabies
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2 RepliesCheaters rule and I like weed
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Is it cheating to exploit a glitch in the game...did you knock Atheon off the ledge or freeze Crota...same thing
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This is not considered cheating by bungie. I know 3 guys who have been ddosing their way to the lighthouse for 2 months now and still not banned. They were reported at least 30 times.
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5 RepliesIf you're not cheating, you're not trying.
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Should get a temporary ban from trials. Streamers should give a good example, not promote using cheap glitches. Hit em where it hurts, their revenues. If they circumvent the ban by playing on another account give them a permanent ban.
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7 RepliesCan someone explain to me what the Shoulder Charge glitch is? I watched the gif but I still dont get it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯