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5/4/2017 3:05:11 PM
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Pregnancy to cost 425% more under Donald Trump's health plan compared to Obamacare
[quote]US citizens with the most serious forms of cancer could have to pay up to 35 times more for health insurance under a proposed amendment to Donald Trump’s new healthcare bill, analysts have claimed.
Fierce debate over what the bill will mean for people with 'pre-existing conditions' has threatened to derail a fresh bid to push the reforms through after they collapsed in March.
The President has tried to make clear that provisions for people with illnesses such as cancer and diabetes will not be reduced, saying earlier this week the new healthcare plan “will be every bit as good on pre-existing conditions as Obamacare”.
House Speaker Paul Ryan said the latest changes to the bill will “lower premiums while keeping protections for the most vulnerable in place” with a modest pool of money to help people afford health insurance.
Wavering moderate Republicans had worried that the legislation to overhaul President Barack Obama's 2010 signature healthcare law would leave too many people with pre-existing medical conditions unable to afford coverage.
But estimates of how much healthcare premiums could rise under the new legislation, revamped to attract most hard-line conservatives and some Republican centrists, show people could end up paying much more under so-called ‘Trumpcare’.
A 40-year-old with a severe form of cancer such as lung or brain cancer could be liable for a $71,880 (£56,000) surcharge, while those with metastatic cancer could see a rise of $140,510, according to calculations by liberal think tank Center for American Progress.
People with colorectal, kidney and other cancers, and those with breast cancer under 50, may have to pay a surcharge of $28,230 (£22,000), and a middle-aged person with autism could have to pay $5,420 (£4,200) for coverage.
And a completed pregnancy, with no or minor complications, would result in a premium hike of $17,060 (£13,200) – a 425% increase.
The organisation said proposals allowing individual states to protect high-risk patients through funding pools or risk-sharing programmes were liable to fail as they have a history of failure and are “woefully underfunded”.
Under this amendment, here are est hikes in premiums for ppl w/:
Asthma: $4k
Diabetes: $5.5k
Pregnancy: $17k
Arthritis: $26k
Cancer: $140k! pic.twitter.com/doGukuaNCc
— Steven Rattner (@SteveRattner) May 2, 2017
“The return of discrimination based on medical history could increase insurance costs by tens of thousands of dollars... rendering it unaffordable for millions of Americans with pre-existing conditions,” it said.
“We estimated what surcharges would be for various medical conditions in the absence of community rating. We drew upon data that the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, or CMS, uses to calculate transfers between insurers based on enrollees’ expected costs—this is called the risk adjustment program.
“We compared the plan liability for total costs for a healthy 40-year-old to the plan liability if that individual had certain medical conditions.”
Under the amendment, states could allow health insurers to charge people with pre-existing conditions higher premiums – rather than the current provisions which mean sick and healthy people are charged the same rates – if those jurisdictions have an alternative way to provide or subsidise coverage for people with serious illnesses.
In a tweet, Mr Trump said the “revised healthcare plan will have much lower premiums & deductibles while at the same time taking care of pre-existing conditions!”
But the American Medical Association said in a letter to the House last week opposing the bill that even protections in the MacArthur Amendment “may be illusory” and the American Cancer Society Cancer Action Network expressed concern that the plan could return the US to a “patchwork system” that drives up insurance costs for the sick.
House leaders plan a vote on Thursday on the legislation, with house majority leader Kevin McCarthy predicting: “We will pass this bill”.
The bitter health care battle dominated the Capitol even as Congress prepared to give final approval to a bipartisan measure financing federal agencies through September.
Polls have shown Mr Obama's much-maligned law has gained in popularity as the debate over a replacement has accelerated.
“House Republicans are going to tattoo this moral monstrosity to their foreheads and the American people will hold them accountable,” said house minority Leader Nancy Pelosi.
The bill would eliminate tax penalties in Mr Obama's law which hit people who do not buy coverage and erases tax increases in the Affordable Care Act on higher-earning people and the health industry.
It cuts the Medicaid programme for low-income people and lets states impose work requirements on Medicaid recipients.
According to the Center for American Progress estimates, 40-year-olds with uncomplicated diabetes would have to pay $5,600 (£4,300) more for insurance.[/quote]
So, not only is it going to be more expensive to be pregnant, but it's also becoming harder to get birth control or an abortion since they're defunding Planned Parenthood.
Good luck.
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3 RepliesOnly if you wait to get health insurance until after you are sick. You shouldn't be required to have insurance, but you shouldn't expect to be taken care of once you do. Could you imagine trying to buy car insurance only after you were in an accident?
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2 RepliesGovernment should simply get out of the business of healthcare...
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1 ReplyMaybe now my tinder won't show so many chicks with "works @ full time mummy"
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5 RepliesNot like anyone on this form was going to reproduce anyway.
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4 RepliesYou all bitch and moan about the environment and unsustainable human population growth(which only adds to the problem), but when Trump tries to fix it you whine. Come on, man. Pregnancy should be prohibitively expensive. Do you know the fossil fuel imprint added by one American citizen? It's astronomical.
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You are doing so much good by trying to get 13 year olds to comprehend the logistics of pregnancy and how it affects your political agenda
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Population control. Needed to happen sooner or later.
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Edited by SinisterSmile: 5/7/2017 11:44:26 PMLooks like it's time to get back into the wire hanger business.
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42 Replies#GladImNotAmerican #FreeHealthCare #Britain
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6 RepliesGood, now maybe couples will be a little more responsible before getting pregnant.
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Buy a condom.....
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2 RepliesSo be responsible and get condoms. If people can't be sensible and responsible sexually, then don't -blam!-ing have sex. No sympathy for anyone who can't afford birth control, an abortion, or go into debt from having a kid. Big whoop.
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1 ReplyDamn healthcare costs, always rising for no apparent reason. Wait... What happened in 1965... The Social Security Amendments Act? The one that birthed Medicare and Medicaid? Hm...
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1 ReplyHow about the fact that once you have the kid, there is no paid family medical leave that is guaranteed, they get tons of time in other countries to actually be with their kids instead of having to go straight back to work, or use a patchwork of sick leave or vacation leave.
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8 RepliesGreat now once again more individuals will have to shoulder there own health costs rather than spread it out to the rest of us..
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My question is, are we great again? Cause it feels like we're becoming shittier.
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30 RepliesI'm going to float this one out here. My first child was delivered via emergency C-sec because the umbilical cord got wrapped round his neck. According to the AHCA, C-secs are a pre-existing condition. So, basically, my wifes insurance premium, if we lived in the US, would skyrocket because we [i]didnt[/i] let our child get throttled to death.
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Geez. Republicans are ruining this great country.
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I read a lot of your political posts and as I'm from the UK I'm pretty much ignorant of American politics. As someone that is diabetic I'm very glad I do live in the UK as I don't think I could live like I do with the extra worry of extra insurance payments to make. Great post. Thanks for sharing.
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30 RepliesSo, not only is it going to be more expensive to be pregnant, but it's also becoming harder to get birth control or an abortion since they're defunding Planned Parenthood. This paragraph right here is proof they even the left know it abortions are paid by tax dollars through Planned Parenthood
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4 RepliesThen dont get pregnant
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7 RepliesAt least he didn't name it after himself
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Canada rules America drools
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I'm a man who's been neutered, my wife's factory is closed. I don't give a shit.
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Edited by SpiRits: 5/5/2017 2:06:34 PM[quote][quote]US citizens with the most serious forms of cancer could have to pay up to 35 times more for health insurance under a proposed amendment to Donald Trump’s new healthcare bill, analysts have claimed. Fierce debate over what the bill will mean for people with 'pre-existing conditions' has threatened to derail a fresh bid to push the reforms through after they collapsed in March. The President has tried to make clear that provisions for people with illnesses such as cancer and diabetes will not be reduced, saying earlier this week the new healthcare plan “will be every bit as good on pre-existing conditions as Obamacare”. House Speaker Paul Ryan said the latest changes to the bill will “lower premiums while keeping protections for the most vulnerable in place” with a modest pool of money to help people afford health insurance. Wavering moderate Republicans had worried that the legislation to overhaul President Barack Obama's 2010 signature healthcare law would leave too many people with pre-existing medical conditions unable to afford coverage. But estimates of how much healthcare premiums could rise under the new legislation, revamped to attract most hard-line conservatives and some Republican centrists, show people could end up paying much more under so-called ‘Trumpcare’. A 40-year-old with a severe form of cancer such as lung or brain cancer could be liable for a $71,880 (£56,000) surcharge, while those with metastatic cancer could see a rise of $140,510, according to calculations by liberal think tank Center for American Progress. People with colorectal, kidney and other cancers, and those with breast cancer under 50, may have to pay a surcharge of $28,230 (£22,000), and a middle-aged person with autism could have to pay $5,420 (£4,200) for coverage. And a completed pregnancy, with no or minor complications, would result in a premium hike of $17,060 (£13,200) – a 425% increase. The organisation said proposals allowing individual states to protect high-risk patients through funding pools or risk-sharing programmes were liable to fail as they have a history of failure and are “woefully underfunded”. Under this amendment, here are est hikes in premiums for ppl w/: Asthma: $4k Diabetes: $5.5k Pregnancy: $17k Arthritis: $26k Cancer: $140k! pic.twitter.com/doGukuaNCc — Steven Rattner (@SteveRattner) May 2, 2017 “The return of discrimination based on medical history could increase insurance costs by tens of thousands of dollars... rendering it unaffordable for millions of Americans with pre-existing conditions,” it said. “We estimated what surcharges would be for various medical conditions in the absence of community rating. We drew upon data that the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, or CMS, uses to calculate transfers between insurers based on enrollees’ expected costs—this is called the risk adjustment program. “We compared the plan liability for total costs for a healthy 40-year-old to the plan liability if that individual had certain medical conditions.” Under the amendment, states could allow health insurers to charge people with pre-existing conditions higher premiums – rather than the current provisions which mean sick and healthy people are charged the same rates – if those jurisdictions have an alternative way to provide or subsidise coverage for people with serious illnesses. In a tweet, Mr Trump said the “revised healthcare plan will have much lower premiums & deductibles while at the same time taking care of pre-existing conditions!” But the American Medical Association said in a letter to the House last week opposing the bill that even protections in the MacArthur Amendment “may be illusory” and the American Cancer Society Cancer Action Network expressed concern that the plan could return the US to a “patchwork system” that drives up insurance costs for the sick. House leaders plan a vote on Thursday on the legislation, with house majority leader Kevin McCarthy predicting: “We will pass this bill”. The bitter health care battle dominated the Capitol even as Congress prepared to give final approval to a bipartisan measure financing federal agencies through September. Polls have shown Mr Obama's much-maligned law has gained in popularity as the debate over a replacement has accelerated. “House Republicans are going to tattoo this moral monstrosity to their foreheads and the American people will hold them accountable,” said house minority Leader Nancy Pelosi. The bill would eliminate tax penalties in Mr Obama's law which hit people who do not buy coverage and erases tax increases in the Affordable Care Act on higher-earning people and the health industry. It cuts the Medicaid programme for low-income people and lets states impose work requirements on Medicaid recipients. According to the Center for American Progress estimates, 40-year-olds with uncomplicated diabetes would have to pay $5,600 (£4,300) more for insurance.[/quote] So, not only is it going to be more expensive to be pregnant, but it's also becoming harder to get birth control or an abortion since they're defunding Planned Parenthood. Good luck.[/quote] Defunidng planned parenthood. Harder to get birth control+abortions. The left thrives off extortion. The governemnt is not in the business of healthcare. Let the market deal with all of this. Free-enterprise.
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Fake news
