Well you would be really salty if I had my way with the Crucible. This is what I would do if I were bungee. 1st,no special or heavy ammo crates. You start a match with 1 magazine in your special and 1 magazine for your heavy period. That's it,you get no more. So you had better be tactical with your special and heavy use. This would promote primary use as well has forcing players to think tactical and use those 4-6 shotgun rounds or 2 rockets only when they are advantageous.

As with most 'research' I have read, I take it with a grain of salt and determine if there is any bias in the person writing the 'research'. So let's see: Characters HC 1466+1013+94 = 2573 AR 653+40+0 = 693 ScR 343+155+0 = 498 PR 589+344+0 = 933 TOTAL PRIMARY KILLS = 4697 SA 106+49+0 = 155 FR 376+38+0 = 414 SG 2447+1578+0 =4025 SnR 1123+656+46 = 1825 TOTAL SECONDARY KILLS = 6419 You have almost as many shotgun kills as TOTAL primary kills. This means you are part of the population who honestly has been making the Crucible hell for other players.

Your acting as if you don't have a primary? Counter play is possible with primaries believe it or not...

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[quote]Die from a shotgunner, you have nothing to counter him[/quote] Do you not know how to use your [i]primary [/i]weapon? You know that also it takes only 1 kill for the other guy to lose all his special ammo too. [quote]Die from a heavy, you have nothing to snipe him with[/quote] Isn't that how it should work? Heavies are also very limited ammo. Also you don't lose special ammo [i]permanently[/i]. [quote]Get revived in Trials, nothing to defend yourself with if you get rushed[/quote] Except that primary in your hands... and your teammates... and they have special weapons and primaries too. [quote]No way to revive snipe/shotgun[/quote] What exactly do you mean by that? [quote]That sniper ammo chestplate you grinded for? Useless.[/quote] Except no, because you still get special ammo to start with and you still can pick up ammo, plus every crate (which there are multiple locations in every map) will be spawning ammo faster. [quote]Exhumed on special? Dead perk![/quote] Only for PvP, specifically only PvP game modes where teammates can be revived and only on special weapons. It was a shit perk for most of PvP anyways that most people don't even use and hey, if it gets removed and replaced now or later totally, I don't think that's a bad thing. [quote]This change is so absolutely stupid and wasn't even asked for.[/quote] Except the shitload of people who for months and months have complained about specials ruling PvP and how primaries needed to be encouraged. You just don't like that it's not the answer to those things the way you would want it. Granted, that's probably because you're so used to special ammo being abundant and not having to ever think about special weapons not really being special as they are.

The moment I heard about this change, I knew there would be salty people like you who would complain. Just live with it and use your Suros. Its not like you won't have amy special left.

If any thing it will encourage you to play smarter. Running around like a maniac with a shotgun no longer nets you 10+ kills. You actually have to play smart and think about what you do.Also, ammo respawns every minute now AND you start with special so it's not that bad. The reason being is that they want more emphasis on PRIMARY gun play and not relying on secondary crutch weapons like the matador 64 and last ditch. How about... I Dunno... Get good and stop relying on shotties to win you a game.

Use your primary Primary equals first, its what you use first, anyone in the military will tell you that you would not run round a battlefield with a shotgun out. You keep your distance and use a primary, secondary is there to cover you if you run out of primary or get over run. This is the way things should be, if this idea promotes more primary battles then I am down with that. Play it, try it before complaining.

Whens this update coming out?

you could try countering with this weapon type rarely seen in these parts, its called a primary weapon, you have 4 types to choose from.