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Edited by Razzar8:
1/30/2017 12:28:46 AM
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It's time to talk about Juggernaut...
So... here I am, and I'm aiming my brains noggin power at a little shield.
(A lot of the feedback I'm getting seems to sound like people aren't reading my suggestion for balancing jugg. So if nothing else, just read the bottom paragraph. )
In short, as it is now Juggernaut is completely, entirely broken.
Titans complained all through year 1 that Juggernaut didn't work with titan skating, and so bunge in their infinite wisdom said "yeah, we can let this happen"
And then they created the Matador.
It's stupid to see your opponent charging at you from across the map WITH HIS -blam!-ING SHOTGUN OUT, and be able to do literally nothing to defend yourself in the 3 seconds it takes for the titan in question to skate on top of you and one bang with his shotty.
Juggernaut should be a trade of with speed and protection. It should only work if a titans feet are on the ground, not 3 feet above it.
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Edited by HRH FURY: 1/31/2017 5:30:18 AMThen don't stand there waiting for him to shoot you..... jump away or throw a smoke grenade or use a fusion....if you're a warlock thundersnipe him ...lol! Even if you kneel most of the time a shot gunner will not kill you even with a matador with a single shot (kneeling causes nearly half the shots to miss)
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Pretty cool x-man
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I run Ophidian Aspects on my Warlock. No Land shot into the shield to drop it and a sidearm to quickly kill them. Works pretty good.
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Use a sidearm, fusion rifle, or shoot gun. Takes the shield down, and kills them quick.
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2 RepliesFusion Rifle [i]fusion rifle[/i] Theres strengths and weaknesses to every gun you choose, and juggernaut works against teams who all run shotgun. So you look one ahead and go "what can beat that and still go up against the shotgunners?" Fusion rifles. They actually serve a -blam!-ing niche who couldve guessed. If you seriously are tired of the matador, the saladin eats shotgun rushers for breakfast. Legit, not even a bias thing.
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I just think that it shouldn't be able to tank a GG
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It's getting it's nerf in February probably
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They need to decrease it's size a little bit
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10 RepliesEdited by SilentFight2411: 1/28/2017 3:08:56 PM.........and yet another post by a whining, nerf herding, game breaking 12 year old. What you main has nothing to do with it. "It's stupid to see your opponent charging at you from across the map WITH HIS -blam!-ING SHOTGUN OUT, and be able to do literally nothing to defend yourself in the 3 seconds it takes for the titan in question to skate on top of you and one bang with his shotty." It's pretty stupid if you see this and don't try to defend yourself in some way. I'm a terrible PvP player and main a Titan myself (I'm not a fan of Juggernaut for the record as, imo, it caters to a lazy playstyle). There is NO shame in trying to evade them. One of the more successful things I do is if I see one charging in. I toss a grenade their way and then use my team. Find your nearest teammate(s) & I promise, in most cases either one or both of you will get the kill. It's pretty basic, just because an enemy is coming at you it doesn't mean you have to have a standoff every single time. There is no shame in using your teammates.
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5 RepliesGood players find ways to adapt. They learn how to use fusion rifles to zap rushing Titans. You know what bad players do? They whine for nerfs.
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Sorry it's been talked about too much already . You can stop a juggernaut dead in his tracks with plan c or me salads fusion. So let's not talk about it anymore. Your beating a dead horse
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I actually don't think it's broken or op. You just gotta stand still with your shotty and wait for their shield to drop. Alternatively I treat them like cabal phalanxes and shoot at their feet.
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I agree , the shield has 110 health , and if you hit them with a sniper it should have area of effect
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1 ReplyEdited by Soul_Eater_42: 1/29/2017 3:11:50 AMI find it annoying, not OP. And if it's such an issue that it's causing this much outcry, maybe they ought to do something about it. Certainly nothing that would ruin it, but change how it works. Rather than block a certain amount of damage before breaking or disappearing, it cuts damage in half for the entire duration it's active, and has a delay in weapon readiness once your shield disappears upon stopping or slowing your momentum.
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2 Replies[b]Fusions[/b] - Solved. Mod plz lock.
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3 RepliesGood idea, let's also remove the ability to Shadestep while in the air. And since this is all about balance, a Warlock will no longer be able to use any abilities while airborne. [spoiler]or learn how to use a fusion rifle or stick grenades[/spoiler] [spoiler]btw, Telesto goes through juggernaut[/spoiler]
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1 ReplyA hunter main crying nerf?!?!?! Noooo wayyyy never seen this before! :-/. Muted.
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Edited by WindUpDead: 1/29/2017 10:20:10 PMThe only nerf they need is in its mechanics, make damage bleed through. So let's say I've health is 10 and you hit it for 20 has of right now the titan would still the zero, just make it so he takes the 10. Edit: I should add if your against running (which is a 100% valid counter), then you should hate skip grenades where [b][u]the only[/u][/b] viable counter is running and then still taking damage anyways.
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6 Replies1. Titan skating wasn't a thing until well into year 2 2. Matador came in with HoW 3. Nobody cried about it until they made it a reward for completing the supremacy quest line, similar to thousand yard stare with taken king. 4. There are other options in crucible than simply standing your ground and shooting until one of you is dead. Especially when you are getting shotgun rushed. Stop using one-dimensional strategies.
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9/10 Whenever I shoot my shotty while I'm getting charged with jug it kills the titan.
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The only thing that sometimes works is jumping
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42 RepliesMoving to the side works pretty well.
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Edited by NYDIBS: 1/29/2017 12:59:26 AMI don't like juggernaut but can agree it's annoying, not OP Plenty of shit in this game is annoying. It's annoying that jumping somehow removes you from radar, wtf is that about, jumping and sprinting is exactly what should show on radar
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1 ReplyTV has a good video on this. I would recommend it
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3 RepliesThat's actually an interesting solution to that. Simply juggernaut only works while running not jumping. That's literally like fair and perfect. It can still tank an absurd amount of damage but the ridiculous "Titan skating" can't be paired with it. It's perfect
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3 RepliesI just shadestep out of the way, so when I'm behind them I just shotgun their blind spot. Gets them most of the time
