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Edited by Joseph Ballin: 12/5/2016 4:51:28 PM
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Insult Throwing Over Actual Cooperation

Just a short post to say, if you disagree with someone and you want to do it publicly, post a well thought out opinion and be mindful of how people reply. If they reply disagreeing with you, and it's not by calling you a worthless -blam!- whose dad will never come back with that bread he went out to get, respond accordingly. If they are insulting you, which is most likely the case, find someone else or just don't respond. Just a short message about etiquette on the forums, ciao. Edit: Ok, people calling me out on my hypocrisy, I'm very well aware of it. This post was meant to be, entirely so, a test of the waters. The post was to see how many people would agree with something like this, and how many people would be like, eh f[b]u[/b]ck that. I personally would be one of the people saying f[b]u[/b]ck that, and to those who called me out, thank you! I was kind of surprised to see anyone doing this kind of research and it makes me happy to see that there actually exist people who want to make sure everyone has all the details. So yeah, to finish off this part, I'm an asshole, I'm a hypocrite, and I enjoyed this experiment thoroughly. Thanks to everyone who posted and especially thanks to those who called me out on my bullshit! Ciao. Edit: Saying thank you to Etherial Pancake, Brother Darunia, blackseal44, g34rg0d, AtomicGamer, and whoever I missed for calling me out! Thank anyone else who you saw call me out on this post. They're the actual good people on these forums, not my intentionally hypocritical ass.
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  • Relevant.

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    • With that hypocrisy I bet you voted for Killary

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      • Git gud scrub

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        • [quote]Just a short post to say, if you disagree with someone and you want to do it publicly, post a well thought out opinion and be mindful of how people reply. If they reply disagreeing with you, and it's not by calling you a worthless -blam!- whose dad will never come back with that bread he went out to get, respond accordingly. If they are insulting you, which is most likely the case, find someone else or just don't respond. Just a short message about etiquette on the forums, ciao. [/quote] [quote][quote]I do too, and I do something that all new Destiny players don't know about, I be a man and DEAL WITH IT, not act like a big pussy bitch. [/quote] Do you know what irony is? Are you aware that all of our activity history is available for the forums to see. Ya that even means we can go through yours as you "insult people without coorperating."[/quote] -Brother Darunia [spoiler]So people can see it all in one shot.[/spoiler]

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          • Edited by xDarkTempest-: 12/3/2016 1:59:17 AM
            It doesn't matter how you post Bungo will give you the middle finger and laugh like hyenas as they take your money regardless. Edit: You should probably consider taking this post down after being savagely exposed...

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            • [url=http://i.imgur.com/BXlTbm7.png]Is this one of those "well though-out opinions" you were telling us about?[/url]

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              • Truly hope this rise higher. OP must be horrified to respond.

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                • Lol people below commenting proof of your hypocrisy

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                  • https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/218894069?page=0&sort=0&showBanned=0&path=1

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                    • Your profile status completely contradicts anything you have said in this post... It wasn't hard to find. [spoiler]Your ghost should have chosen someone else[/spoiler]

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                      • Remember that time you came on the forums and tried telling everyone to be respectful, but you post stuff like [url=http://i.imgur.com/tqQxdD8.png]this[/url]. Pepperidge Farm remembers.

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                        • Lol you haven't posted since that day.

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                          • [quote]I do too, and I do something that all new Destiny players don't know about, I be a man and DEAL WITH IT, not act like a big pussy bitch. [/quote] Do you know what irony is? Are you aware that all of our activity history is available for the forums to see. Ya that even means we can go through yours as you "insult people without coorperating."

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                            • Edited by TH3N0RS3F0RC3: 12/3/2016 12:07:46 AM
                              bump this shyt to the top Edit: i had your back until i see all this garbage about you just being another child on here throwing insults at people... don't post about etiquette if you don't follow it lol

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                              • [quote]Just a short post to say, if you disagree with someone and you want to do it publicly, post a well thought out opinion and be mindful of how people reply. If they reply disagreeing with you, and it's not by calling you a worthless -blam!- whose dad will never come back with that bread he went out to get, respond accordingly. If they are insulting you, which is most likely the case, find someone else or just don't respond. Just a short message about etiquette on the forums, ciao. [/quote] Gotta make sure you can't hide your shit.

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                                • I've just read a few examples where you may have contradicted yourself there buddy boy.

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                                  • Yet you post this [quote]In fact it's very easy! Don't suck massive cock and shoot the guy running straight at you, or use a shotgun. He'll probably have to use the shotgun. [/quote]

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                                    • I use the Destiny forums to test my resistance to stupidity. I like to find the dumbest, most aggravating arguments being had, figure out exactly how I'd rebut them, then delete it all and get off the forums.

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                                      • .....

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                                      • Being civil on the internet died long ago my friend.

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                                      • Now we're offended about words on the Internet? I mention "dude, put a pillar between you and Aksis and he won't hit you with SIVA swarms" and people get all shy and quiet and bothered. You nerds have something coming when you get jobs. It can be a very disagreeable environment where you have to stand up for yourself and call some people out on occasion. I agree that insults aren't the way to get the message across, but if you can't handle a pissed off person's criticism, good luck with life...

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                                        • Nah, you gotta bait them into getting pissed and losing their cool while you maintain plausible deniability. That's way more fun

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                                          • Most of us would likely say that we do not care to be around disagreeable people. This choice of behavior is typically discouraged in organizations as being disruptive and unsettling. It can generate negative emotional reactions and a sense that the disagreeable person is being uncooperative and is not “on board”. However the act of disagreeing is essential to identify problems, provide contrary perspectives, consider alternatives and make changes. What we need to recognize is that there is a skill and “art” in offering a disagreement that plays an important part in the success in taking this position. It is not what is said, but how it is said. Cultivating an environment that supports constructive disagreement requires encouragement of frank discussions, challenging questions and debate. This milieu results in decisions that are well thought out and earn the confidence and support of those who need to implement them. What are some of the traits and techniques that contribute to the art of disagreement? •Demonstrate an attitude of inclusion •Use data and decision making procedures •Beware of emotional responses •Seek first to understand, then to be understood •Agree to disagree Demonstrate an Attitude of Inclusion Disagreement will begin to be valued when leaders demonstrate an attitude of inclusion. Openness to and active solicitation of differing ideas, perspectives, feelings, and beliefs generates greater breadth of thinking than a closed and conservative approach to decision making which tends to shut out diversity. The attitude of inclusion stimulates expression of disagreements and a collaborative discovery of solutions. This approach will increase the likelihood that optimal choices will be made. Respect for disagreement encourages risk taking, creative thinking and consideration of alternatives that otherwise would not be put on the table. Leaders who challenge their associates to brain storm, critique, and think outside the box will maximize the potential that exists within the group. Appreciation shown for effort, and not just for the chosen decision, will further encourage people to take the risk of offering ideas and positions that might not otherwise be put out for consideration. Use Data and Decision Making Procedures It is helpful to have decision making procedures that facilitate the presentation of differing options while also maintaining an orderly process for reaching conclusions. Brainstorming, nominal group technique and multi-voting are methods that can be used to generate ideas and focus on preferred choices. If there is no structure to facilitate the decision making process the participants will experience frustration from “wheel spinning” and be less open to considering differing ideas. Disagreements must merit the time and attention required for contemplation. Simply arguing for a personal agenda is not adequate. Those who want their perspective to be considered need to demonstrate its value with data or other supportive evidence and use the decision making process that is in place. Use of an organized presentation with handouts, charts, or other visual aids can be very effective in demonstrating a perspective that needs to win the approval of others. It may be helpful to pass alternatives through “filters” to assure that they meet the criteria required for consideration prior to presenting them. Disagreements that are obviously well thought out and rationally presented within organizational guidelines will be given more respectful consideration than those which are spontaneous and “off the cuff”. When working to resolve disagreements determine if the differences are centered on the central goal or on the process for achieving the desired outcome. There will often be more receptivity to variations in process and procedures than to wholesale changes in the objective. Do proposals meet the identified goals and requirements? If yes, then disagreement may be in the area of process; how to reach the goal rather than the goal itself. Recognizing and communicating this distinction can keep the process moving along constructively. Beware of Emotional Responses Disagreements can cause emotional reactions that disrupt the objective assessment of an option being considered. Presentations that are overly dramatic may not be effective - the content can be lost in the expression. The idea will be judged on the listener’s affective reactions and not on merit. However presentations without any emotion may be as ineffective as those with excessive emotion. Ideas communicated with feeling create energy. Emotions that are tempered and expressed for emphasis and effect can be a powerful enhancement in communicating the intensity of belief and conviction. When presenting a different perspective it is important not to alienate others in the group. Separate the person from the problem. Statements that are confrontational, blaming and critical are usually not well received and can be harmful. Indicating a desire to collectively solve the problem at hand will be more effective than forming factions. Being prepared and professional will increase the likelihood of receptivity to contrary opinions and perspectives. Conflict and disagreements that are cognitively presented with poise and confidence will be received best. Even skeptics are likely to consider ideas that are presented with logic, reason and conviction. Use of substantiated facts, relevant references, and evidence of success in other settings will help to change the minds of those who may initially be in opposition. The inclusion of enough emotion to demonstrate assurance that it will work in the current situation may be enough to tip the scales. Seek First to Understand, Then to be Understood. DID I WIN THE ARGUMENT?

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                                            • I just mute people and move on without any sort of response to the person trying to get a rise out of me.

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                                            • Too bad this didn't reach the top of the forums. I'm half tempted to self bump it there....

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                                              • "ciao" ??? [i]"We also have Seal and the Pet Shop Boys on the jukebox for profiling purposes....."[/i] - from Taledega Nights At any rate...........on this forum, clearly the Marquees of Queensbury rules don't apply. It's more along the lines of bare knuckle. Most complainers here spend a lot of time searching for a point, not making one, and nowhere else does misery have as much company as this message board where the like-minded can often be found in a circle jerk.

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