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Edited by PhreshBrotha: 11/28/2016 8:46:27 PM
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Buff Auto Rifles

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  • Bungie be like "ok, nerf fusion rifles"

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    • Edited by Erijian: 11/29/2016 9:55:27 PM
      Give them more damage to let them melt up close, and either keep the damage drop off the same or increase it if they begin to become too consistent in mid range. Also unrelated but nerf high RoF Pulse Rifle range.

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    • Buff them how exactly? What don't you currently like about them? What would be an improvement in your opinion? Seriously, why even make a post like this if you are not going to elaborate a bit? It would be like telling the girl behind the counter at the gas station "They need to buff auto rifles". Completely worthless and bound to be ignored.

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      • Uh, no. Buff shotguns. Buff Titans and their sc/jug. Buff Universal Remote. Buff Storm caller and their melee. Buff Nightstalkers and their wombo-combo. Buff skip grenades. Buff lightning grenades. Buff fusion/all sticky grenades. Buff Sunbreakers so they have triple the amount of hammers. But for God's sake. DO NOT BUFF ANY PRIMARIES [i]they should be nerfed[/i] [spoiler]except the Universal Remote of course[/spoiler]

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      • R.I.P Most useless weapons of the game, now and always. [spoiler]I love auto rifles, but this is the reality[/spoiler]

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        • seeing how a bunch of people are doing just fine with auto rifles, you left off a bit of your demand there. you should edit that to say "buff auto rifles because i specifically suck with them". otherwise, get better, practice. autos arent in that bad of a place so long as you dont try to go point blank against shotguns

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        • Yep buff them by 0.004% again lol

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        • Within their intended range, I do pretty good with them.

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          • I agree

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          • U don't want my zarinae d buffed, but hey, I wouldn't mind rofl

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            • (questions him silently).... Which ones...

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              • Yes

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              • No I believe being killed by either a clever dragon ,matador or sticky grenade is fun

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              • Nerf fusion rifles?

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                  • What did you want buffed again?

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                    • no

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                    • [quote]Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles[/quote]

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                    • [quote]Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles Buff Auto Rifles[/quote]

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                      • Edited by Blue25omega1392: 11/27/2016 11:14:46 PM
                        Shhhh don't tell anyone but the vanguard auto rifle ( the continental) with the right perks is a beast. Love the one on my warlock I nicknamed it hot knife because my opponents are butter

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                        • So... Nerf Fusion rifles?

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                        • 1. Autorifles are going to be weaker with precision fire. They make up for it by being extra-strong with non-precision fire. With body shots, no primary except the Last Word kills faster. 2. Instead of saying the same thing 71 times, why not explain WHY autorifles need a buff. That would be far more impressive than... that.^

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                          • the slightest buff will make it op again. I usually use the blind perdition and clever dragon, but I got the royal flush ornament for the monte carlo and decided to use it, and I was outgunning many high rate of fire pulse rifles. A slight buff would easily make it unbalanced judging by its capabilities as it is now. Although I do think auto rifles need a buff on range, cuz the range reduction really disadvantages gun fights for the auto rifles.

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                          • I am an avid auto rifle user. I would like to see a pve buff for low and mid rof autos, and a pvp buff for low rof autos. HOWEVER I believe that auto rifles and many other archetypes are and will reaming impossible to balance because of the high movement speed and overall poor implementation of what "close, mid-close, mid, mid-long, long, and sniper" ranges. Shotguns rip open high rof autos in their optimum range, pulse rifles are more reliable at mid range than mid and low rof autos, low rof autos are way worse and any pull or almost any scout, hand cannons I have no opinion on because I legit cannot hit anything with them lol. The different archetypes have way too much overlap in what their optimal ranges are, and many of them (not just autos) get muddy. Realistically even just a buff to low rof autos in general would make them all pretty good, with practice at least.

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                          • Bro I agree with you 100% I just dont want them op again lol. I dont want them melting people but the high rate of fire autos are in a good spot.

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