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Edited by Psyalac:
2/17/2016 5:58:48 PM
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A Little Tip for Those Who Are Asking for Nerfs.
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I'm looking for smart, mature, and skilled players. I'm looking forward to making an elite team for 3V3 gamemodes. Currently this is only applicable to xbox 360 users.
I've played with the best before, however now, I'm making the best.
If you are interested please private message me on bungie.net. whether or not you will get in is dependent on your experience with the game.
Hope to see you guys soon, now back to the real post.
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Here`s a tip for those of you who are complaining about the so called "meta" in Destiny. This helped me big time in achieving my own ranking.
A bit of backstory, I used to be a 1.1 K/D player. I could never go flawless, I could barely play on my own. I would go around blaming my deaths and losses on everything that is of cause. Sadly, there are still tons of players who are like this. Here is a little tip that hopefully you guys can follow in order to stop yourself from getting "tilt".
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Every time you die, or miss a kill, you can never blame it on the gun you are using or, the gun they are using. Same goes with abilities. You are dying [u]purely[/u] because you are not thinking ahead. This game plays more so on skill, rather then what kind of guns you`re using.
If you go around blaming something other then yourself for your deaths, you will never admit to your own mistakes, blaming the Game will never alow you to improve, rather you will not know where to improve upon.
I could go into the crucible with any kind of blue weapon and still play relatively good. Why? Because this game is all skill/hand-eye coordination based. This game requires concentrated practice. Similar to playing the guitar. Your fingers will just feel uncomfortable and sloppy. With concentrated use, you don't even need to look at the guitar to know the chords.
Just an added note, you won't play as good with a blue weapon of course, but you won't be having bad games as long as you concentrate on playing smart, and safe. The meta in destiny currently is relatively balenced. If we keep blaming the game for our own mistakes, we will likely cause a new nerf due to complaints. A new nerf will only make for a new meta, and so the cycle continues.
If you ever want to get good at this game. Never, blame anyone or anything but yourself for dying or playing bad. If you do so, you will never recognize your own mistakes. as a result you will never improve in whatever is causing you to die. blaming the game will surely put yourself on tilt, which will only result in digging a hole for yourself...
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[b]WE DO NOT NEED NERFS, WE DO NOT NEED CHANGES, YOU NEED TO PLAY SMARTER TO COMPETE AGAINST OTHERS. [/b]
[i]Isn't that what PvP is supposed to be....?[/i]
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[b]EDIT #1[/b]
[i]Thank you all for the support! I love responding to you guys, and I've been getting some very great praise.
If you guys are looking for more information, feel free to look at my responses to other people. You may find your answer there. [/i]
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[i]As of now i've responded to every single comment. and boy there are some long ones, i've been typing non-stop straight for these couple hours. I'm doing so in hope of helping you guys! You`re welcome! :D[/i]
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This is currently the top trending post. I'm glad that I'm getting so much support. For those of you that need help in the crucible, I'd be happy to give private lessons online. If you play on the Xbox 360, message me, if I get to you, I will quite possibly help teach you in PvP.
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Hey everyone!
I made a new community for those people who need it. It's called The Light Of Legends. If you are interested in joining, it's completely open. Just go into my account, click the clan I'm a part of, and join. We have 25 members as of now. Hopfully we can largen that expensionally.
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3 Replies100 percent agree man I think anything at this point can be easily combated. We could all spend out time arguing with them but it's pointless until their class can easily beat every other they will always cry. Dosent matter what character you use or guns good players come out on top.
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1 ReplyThis is true I used to SUCK at PvP I hated it. Now I like it. My KD on my hunter and titan will show this. I just restarted my Warlock and my KD is a 1.2 .not the best but it's positive. Me and my buddy played crimson doubles last night. We won 15 strait games we came back 1 game 0-4 and won 5-4. I was about to give up. We changed the tempo of the game did something different. They was using trials guns some true try hards. I would
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1 ReplyBump!
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5 RepliesI'd say that lag has too much of an effect in this game to say it's all about skill
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I still don't think the last word belongs in this game. This first argument people make is that it has almost no range at all. Well that's all fine and dandy but most maps are tiny to where these engagements happen really often. Think of the old shotgun meta. It is used in the intended range of autos and they will get shredded everytime. Every class of primary besides two other exotics get shredded. At one point in a match most players will be faced with a close quarters situation and tlw shouldn't dictate the winner. It should come down to their primary, use of class abilities, or what special they want to use. This is especially magnified in 3v3 game modes now with the special nerfs. It very capably shreds as fast as any hmg right now. And it's very easy to use
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2 RepliesI'll leave this here... https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/191507503/0/0
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1 ReplyI agree for the most part. Since I've been getting better at PvP myself, I've learned that gun skill is very important obviously but knowing when to run is also important. I'm constantly trying to think of why I get killed and how not to do it again. I'll record games I thought I did awesome at and think "God, that was awful!" Also light level based blue weapons will be a disadvantage but normal crucible, I thought blues and greens were scrub set ups. At least in y1 that's all I saw in forums.
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2 RepliesYou sir are a gentleman and a scholar! Hopefully you and others can show the rest of the crucible players who blame their deaths on gear/supers they think are op to accept responsibility for their shortcomings instead of demanding nerfs which ultimately will just ruin the game for us all. Be a light in the dark.
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1 ReplyThankyou for silencing the screams of scrub kind on the forums although i like when they change the meta. The crucible feels different and i like a little change of pace every once in a while.
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1 ReplyBravo! A one in a million post
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I wholeheartedly agree with this. That being said, there is ONE weapon that has been to blame for ruining a game, and that is Thorn. The gun single handedly dictated the pace of any match it was present in, due to the DoT. Then of course, there is Bungie's horrid netcode that DOES cause scenarios that are beyond your control, such as when I downed an entire enemy team in Trials with my teammates, only to have a Hunter self revive (yes, a Hunter) and glitch through a wall to revive his team.
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3 RepliesBro! I gotta help with this one, sorry if someone pointed it out already. Largen = increase Expensionally = exponentially
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I agree with some parts of your post. Especially that blaming guns for your death will simply not form a fruitful basis for improvement. If you want to get better then you need to improve regardless of what you play...and that means practice and creative thought. But there are some side notes to some of your arguments. Essentially your ability to hit what you aim at and not standing in the way of bullets is skill and plays a huge factor in determining the outcome of fights and matches.You can certainly improve that and in doing so you will improve across the board. However...the logical inconsistency...or contradiction is that while hand eye coordination (as you say) determines just abut everything with every weapon it is also true that every weapon is not the same and guns with a larger hit box detection, aim assist or damage per hit increase will greatly reduce the impact of that hand eye coordination. It takes a lot more skill to kill somebody with a gun that requires five head shots to kill than with a gun that kills in three body shots from the hip....for example. The last one compensates much more for current short comings in hand eye coordination and positioning. That makes the game less about skill. Not every gun is the same and some impact or compensate much more for lack of skill or add another benefit on top of already good skill. So gun choice in PvP as well as perk set up do make the game imbalanced....and do enforce a specific META.
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Uhmmm I would say its 50 percent skill 50 percent your connection to hose, whomever it is Ive noticed alot of this game has to due with how much money you give your ISP (I know prices vary but unless you have the fastest in this game you are definitely at a disadvantage) I am stuck in one of those areas in which 6 mgpbs is the fastest so im in a bit of a predicament If they had dedicated servers for this my problem would for the most part be alleviated along with everyone elses, and those who network manipulate would be punished for it I agree on some parts, tlw needs to stay within its range confines, they need to undo the accuracy nerf for hawkmoon and they need to figure out this special ammo thing (all that update did was either make a round where everyone avoids eachother or everyone faces off with icebreaker) But yeah every nerf this.nerf that post is mostly irrelevant
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1 ReplyEdited by The 7th fall: 2/14/2016 9:38:36 PMI wouldn't say this game is entirely dependent on skill in PvP, but it does play a critical role nonetheless. The problem is Bungie constantly nerfing without thinking of what will happen afterwards... they just listen to the crucibabies wanting their bottle of nerf milk rather than the brothers and sisters having to put up with the whiners and what would happen when the babies run outta milk. What needs to happen, in my opinion, is Bungie needs to revert ALL nerfs to pre 1.1.1. patch days as those were some of the best Crucible days. Granted pulse rifles in general would need buffing, Thorn DoT definitely needs muzzling, sniper scoping time would need adjustment and probably being descoped upon taking damage, SBMM has got to be removed from regular playlists as a bare minimum, otherwise I'd say those were the best days of PvP. P.S. - I want the old auto-rifle shot sound back it was waaaaayyyy better than hearing what we have now, that nerf was unnecessary.
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4 RepliesEdited by Killer_Panda6525: 2/14/2016 9:22:34 PMThis game is not on skill shooting thorn and running away of just camping special with a ice breaker is not skill this is not a competitive game except IB, or trials, maybe these tiny events. But when i play regular crucible and -blam!-s are running around with there blink and Y1 felwinters or conspiracy theory it's not my fault they decided to add blink to 2 classes except for 1. If you are honestly saying n nerfs or buffs are needed you are a kiss ass people want this game to be better except for the few that really do bitch when they die. They need to remake all the classes if you ask me make them more for what they were supposed to do. Warlocks have more armor then titans, titans have more agility then hunters and hunters are just really -blam!-ed. The striker class is supposed to be the best in close quarters but has the lowest melee in game and the longest range grenade that can nail you through walls and pillars. Warlocks have the most armr with the right set up so much more that they can survive a sniper shot. ( before you say "you're a whining bitch" try this... Sunsinger max armor, Ram, and radiant skin, thats how they get more armor then titans and can survive a sniper shot) They shouldn't have mre armor then titans AND most recovery. The classes are NOT balanced and if you think they are i feel bad for you and anyone wh can agree with you. P.S i get very mad with crucible mostly because of lag but each class is very shitty or very good compared to others, every class needs a reason to use it, striker should be best at close quarters ability wise, same with arc blade, golden gun, hammers, and dare i say nova bomb and stormcaller should be the masters f long range ability wise. The defender bubble should reflect all super damage unless the person using the super is inside the bubble, Example, a golden should NOT destroy the bubble a nova bomb should not destroy a bubble and deal damage to people inside, a nova bomb should bounce back or just not destroy it. I'm fine with some tweaks to what i said from others but do not say all the classes are fine and no nerfs, or buffs are needed because they are not, and there will always be a reason to nerf or buff something in EVERY GAME.
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2 RepliesThorn
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I do have to say that between all 3 classes with all 3 skill trees available - along with all the gear and perks you can have as well a large assortment of weapons each having numerous perks of their own--- makes this game literally impossible to balance perfectly. And even more difficult to balance by listening to complaints- because it seems to have an even worse after effect once something is changed. There's a lot of different shit. Some nerfs and buffs seemed worthy, while most of them were not as in streamlining and limiting things we use. I don't even play pvp a lot but when I do. I always ask, " what the hell is going to be different this time?"
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While agree with the whole "get good, stop whining" thing. Its fact that if 2 players of equal skill using 2 guns of not equal quality face off, the odds are definitely in favor of the player with the better (shorter ttk) gun. There just isn't any way around it. Due to the way weapons are acquired (PvE) it makes PvP unbalanced right out of the gate. I don't think there is a way for Destiny to be a really balanced competitive game unless all of the weapons are available for PvP like or there are just standardized weapons for PvP like WoW's PvP weapons and armor sets.
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2 RepliesHappy valentine's day everyone! Hope you all find bae.
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1 ReplyI approve this message.
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5 Replies[quote]A Hunter, Titan, and Warlock are sitting at a table. The Titan, a Sunbreaker, is seriously wounded, and has a broken arm and leg. The Warlock, a Stormcaller, is in perfect health, and is sitting as calm as can be. The Hunter is pacing around the table, thinking deeply about what should be nerfed next. [b]Hunter:[/b] Let's see, I just got killed by a sniper... he must have been relying on that aim assist crutch! NERF SNIPER AIM ASSIST BUNGIE, OMFG!!!! [b]Warlock:[/b] Oh, will you just shut it already! Look at poor Jim over here. [i]Points at Titan.[/i] He can barely move from what your constant bickering did to him. [b]Titan:[/b] Need... super... energy... [b]Hunter:[/b] Don't even bother, Jim. Now you know how us Hunters, the master race, felt when you b*tched and complained about Bladedancers for a whole year. [b]Titan:[/b] Please... no more... nerfs... [b]Warlock:[/b] Okay, maybe the Sunbreaker was a little OP, but that doesn't mean every other piece of equipment in the damn game needs to be nerfed along with it! [b]Hunter:[/b] Oh crap! Bungie is about to buff auto rifles by... 7%! Oh no, that can't happen. [i]grabs phone.[/i] [b]Warlock:[/b] What the hell are you doing? [b]Hunter:[/b] Hey, Xur! I have a job for you. [b]Xur:[/b] It is my will to speak to you. [b]Hunter:[/b] You know that 7% buff to medium RoF Auto Rifles due this Tuesday? [b]Xur:[/b] I think the cells of this body are dying... [b]Hunter:[/b] Move the decimal point to the left a bit! [b]Xur:[/b] My will is not my own... [b]Hunter:[/b] [i]hangs up.[/i] Weird guy... well, I just prevented a possible OP weapon buff. What's next? Let's see, I forgot to mention something... was it handcannons? No, they got nerfed ages ago... Ah, yes, Stormcaller!! [b]Warlock:[/b] What the hell!? I'm perfectly balanced!!! [b]Hunter:[/b] THAT GUY JUST KILLED ME FROM WAY TOO FAR AWAY!!! IT'S SO OP!!! [b]Warlock:[/b] I'm not overpowered, what the hell is wrong with you? [b]Hunter:[/b] ANOTHER ONE JUST KILLED ME! WHY IS IT SO OP!!! [b]Warlock:[/b] Shut up! Please stop, Bungie might hear you! [b]Hunter:[/b] [i]pulls out megaphone[/i]. STORMTRANCE IS WAY TOO OVERPOWERED. PLEASE NERF THEM BUNGIE, NERF THEM!!! [i]The Titan, unnoticed to this point, suddenly turns from bright orange to light blue. His broken limbs heal themselves, and he stands up vigorously. [/i] [b]Hunter:[/b] Jim, did you just switch subcla- [i]drops megaphone.[/i] OH SH*T!! [i]The Titan shoulder-charges the Hunter, sending him flying into the wall.[/i] [b]Titan:[/b] YOU... WILL NOT... NERF... MY FRIEND!! [i]The Titan activates his Fist of Havoc, demolishing the Hunter, and the entire wall behind him.[/i] [b]Warlock:[/b] Why... why did you do that? [b]Titan:[/b] You don't know the pain I've been through these past few days. I - I don't want you to share the same fate. [i]The Hunter respawns next to the Titan.[/i] [b]Hunter:[/b] What the hell jus- wait, that was a Fist of Panic!!!! BUNGIE, NERF THE STRIKER! [b]Warlock:[/b] Their super wasn't even buffed, dipsh*t. [b]Hunter:[/b] I don't care!! THEY'RE SO OP!!! [b]Titan:[/b] What if everything you ever wanted... [b]Warlock & Hunter:[/b] ????? [b]Titan:[/b] WAS TO KICK SHIT IN THE FACE!? FOREVER! [b]Warlock:[/b] What in the hell are you talking about? [b]Titan:[/b] [b]THEN YOU NEED [u]PEREGRINE GREAVES!!![/u][/b] [i]Titan jumps in the air, then rams his knee into the Hunter's face.[/i] [b]Warlock:[/b] Why does he always brag about those damn things?[/quote]
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1 ReplyI agree except on some parts. I do agree that you can go into a match and only do as good as you are skilled; I did much better with my blue sidearm than I'll ever do with TLW. That being said, many players, usually Y1, have gotten used to TLW and therefore perform exceptionally with the gun. Basically, Destiny is 90% skill, 10% gun. And 0% competitive.
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5 RepliesEdited by Darches: 2/14/2016 8:03:43 PMUm... [b]NO[/b]. My K/D triples when I use Stormcaller and sniper. 3/4 of the guns will ensure you lose every gunfight. This game is not balanced at all. A skilled player can totally make a normal AR work, I've seen it done. But the fact is if you're not using Doctrine or Arminius-D, you're putting yourself at a disadvantage. You, OP, are too good for your own good. You can't see balance because you could wreck with a stone slingshot. Also, your best weapon is Sniper. Ironic. [i]You should be ashamed.[/i]
