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Edited by Kadziet:
1/2/2016 9:09:03 PM
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Why Nightstalker is Underwhelming and Underpowered in PVP
For a class that takes the most skill to use effectively, and from medium range, it is terribly underwhelming in PVP.
Tether takes WAY too long to activate. The arrow is pretty slow and easy to avoid. The new Void Wall grenade is basically RNG on which direction the wall will go, meaning most of the time you'll try to throw around a corner, but it's angle is totally off.
Vanish in Smoke doesn't get the benefits of Lockdown, so it's wasted in PVP.
Predator. Where do I start with that. Void traps sound good on paper, but are super easy to avoid. It's rare I actually get someone with it unless the tether is on an objective point. As soon as it registers an enemy near it, it charges up with a noise, the person just needs to keep sprinting normally to get out of range hilariously easily.
Snare doesn't have the problem Predator has, as the Smoke Grenade detonates immediately, but Predator should be doing the same. You already went through the trouble of using up your Super bar to set up a trap, so it should already be primed and charged and ready to tether.
Also, firing it is such a hassle. The best way to fire it is stationary from the ground, because even if you're walking and use it you'll just float away into oblivion, never to be seen again. The anti-grav floating thing is just way too much for this super. Why not go stationary in the air? Sure, there's situations where you can activate, float around a corner, and fire immediately at an enemy, but those are few and far between.
I dunno. Nightstalker just seems super underpowered, even with it being a support class.
What are your thoughts?
EDIT:: There's a lot of anger in the comments. Seriously? Yeah, I made this post, but it's just a game :\ What's with the inconsolable rage? Did mommy not bring home dinner or something? Sheesh. It's just a forum. Just a game. No need to throw things around your room before commenting.
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I agree with you for the most part, particularly about how long it takes to activate. I'll shoot a bow right next to a person and he'll still kill me, one time a TETHERED Titan killed me with hammer like half a second after he got tethered.
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I knew you were bring the fact you cannot kill with tether, well let me tell you you are using it wrong. Tether is not an attacking super, its a support super hence why it has the highest orb making out there. You being able to kill when hitting someone directly is a plus.
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You obviously don't know how to use it effectively, yeah it's super doesn't kill much, but it's utility and neutral game is superior to other classes
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I don't think it should suppress all other supers . All classes have there place so stop crying and learn how to strategies your guardian . Let the guardians battle it out and stop relying on buggie to nerf for you.
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Okay, I don't want to hate eve so I won't, just thought I should start with that. And yes, I do think that it does require some skill, but if you have the skill to use each of the individual abilities, then you're able to use it [i]effectively[/i] in the crucible. And, personally, I think it looks badass.
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Then please explain why the top sweats who are hunter all run night stalker except for 1 or 2 exceptions.
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I don't like the grenades that's all.....
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I don't care what u say it's still good. Just because you can't use it as aggressive as other supers doesn't mean anything. Plus if you think nightstalker is underpowered good. At least it won't get nerfed now and I can still wreck with it
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Every subclass is underwhelming if you suck. ~true story
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Edited by SLASHER88BRAVO: 1/6/2016 7:31:05 PM[Sarcasm] oh yeah... Nightstalker is soooo UP..... Shade step and quiver http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/SLASHER88BRAVO/video/13716754 Shade step and keen scout http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/SLASHER88BRAVO/video/13716799 Shadow shot http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/SLASHER88BRAVO/video/13716916 Bad shadow shot but good shade step before sunbreaker nerf http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/SLASHER88BRAVO/video/12420277 Shade step, triple jump, and keen scout http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/SLASHER88BRAVO/video/12363967 My favorite 3 for 3 quiver. http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/SLASHER88BRAVO/video/12449597
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The class itself without the super is fantastic with evade and poison being available and the super is essentially a better version of Golden Gun with invincibility frames during shots, the ability to shutdown supers, and even if you miss you can still punish other players. It's not underpowered at all. Extremely forgiving yes, but not underpowered
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Nightstalker are just fine it's a support class it's not supposed to be over powered. It's supposed to support. If you do not know how to use it then that's your problem. What's under powered are bladedancers
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Well....I thought you should know that the Void Wall isn't RNG lololol.. It spreads horizontally from the direction you're facing. Js.. If you throw it while mid air, and you're looking in a weird direction, your grenade will follow suit.
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2 RepliesThis is hands down the whiniest community in the history of gaming. I thought WoW was bad.... Hey I just started PvP over the weekend.... got rocked a few times. Used several weapons....tried different sub classes...starting to learn maps....hey I have to get better or use something else. Not once will I cry about it. I know to get better, move on, or get left behind.
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The only thing i would like to see changed is an immediate suppression of an enemys super if you hit them with shadowshot
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1 ReplyBlack hole, vortex, envenomed and keen scout. You're welcome
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2 RepliesAre you kidding? Black hole is insane.
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The smoke is the deadliest thing I've seen thus far. The blinding ability is amazing. The nightstalker has amazing subclass perks, but the super is subpar, most of the time I can kill someone become suppression goes off. That should not be the case. ~[i]TheGreatNike[/i]
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4 RepliesVortex plus smoke = easy kills. Shade step with a shotty is the new blink shotgun and tagging enemies you damage is unfair. The subclass is awesome IF you know how to use the super correctly.
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The only problem I have is the fact that I can tether a super and still be killed by it before the suppression. It should kill the super immediately Other than that, Nightstalker is all I use in pvp. I don't even use Gunslinger anymore. Use bladedancer from time to time
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It isn't though
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Do small team stuff and play support if you are going to be a Nightsalker. Generate orbs of life and open up possibilities for your teammates to make kills so your team can win. You also seem like the kind of guy that cried for a Sunbreaker nerf, but that's just me
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Ur gay
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2 RepliesNerf rock, papers balanced -Scissors
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"rock is balanced, scissors are OP." ~paper
