I love this question I played WF for almost a year I found (My) end game with it (got too repetitive and grindy) 2 years later I come back to play again and all of my weapons are still viable options all of the mods that i had are still great and there is probably double the amount of frames and weapons and mods not to mention sentinals and pets that have come in. Destiny is fun but its story its interface its interaction with everything is so wrong the load times are horrid (which is more of a backlash on playing Console which makes me believe people are comparing Console destiny (LOADING SCREEN!!!!) and console Warframe). Warframe was made for PC originally and I've played on PS4 also. It is slow as hell to start I will admit but when you can finally get out of the story and into Survival missions and Defense missions with friends it brings each other together to form a team and synergize with each other to do well in these missions and the further you get the greater the rewards. I don't feel like this is the case in destiny. The types of classes really don't matter their abilities don't help as a group just feels like I'm another body in a party. If for some reason anyone read all of that there are definate flaws of Warframe there could be an open world to explore at some point a home base to land your ship and visit but not a nesting ground where you have to go to do mods equip items get missions this is all covered in our ship or just in our main menu (i have no doubt destiny will or should copy this feature going back to town can take upwards of 3-5 min plus the time running around to get and turn in missions to get back into another mission can take almost 10 min) I can get back into a mission on WF in under a minute. Warframe does have an upfront face of Pay-to-Win i thought this when i started playing because it didnt have any direction on how to obtain items blueprints and such (with a little research which should be available in game IMO) everything is free. WF dev's host events that you can obtain amazing items. While Crafting in WF can take a while to wait its honestly not that long you can queue all 3 Blue prints (Helm,Chassis, Systems) and for 3 different types of items Weapons sentinals warframes it doesnt keep you from playing the game from searching for those special mods to make you go from shooting your potato gun to a real rocket launcher. Clan systems WF has some huge gains to having/being in a clan and your accomplishments within the dojo pay off destiny is just being in a community no real gains. I may be bias on this vote but i am also comparing a game that is in beta to a game that has been come out as full release with 3 expansions now and still has a major lack of content. I will give destiny a win in the PVP department i believe thats what their game was truely made for and are creators of the 2 biggest names in FPS Halo and CoD they have many many many years of experience with that so that is to no surprise. I could keep going I believe this debate is a vote based on who paid for what obviously most people would vote for a game they paid for over a free game even if it was better. Last note I truely to the core of my existence hate RNG and especailly RNG that is programmed to just utterly ruin my experience with games when im playing warframe im farming because i know exactly what im getting / Crafting not because there is a micro chance of something happening. Please post reply something if you feel different / similar feelings about my opinions i would love for a good conversation with anyone level headed