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2/17/2022 9:07:00 PM
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PVP matchmaking needs some help

It would be really nice if all pvp activities separated fire teams from individual players. Even the most skilled players individually could not average more than 5-15 defeats and 15 at best on an average. The fireteams get all giddy in being creative in just how many different angles they could take everyone and I am always being put on teams that no one is talking to each other on, or fire teams. So as it is matching me with other individuals and Iron Banner is a nightmare. And regular pvp is getting that way to. I had a team I played against last week, who was getting all smart with the individual players they were being matched against and would not capture a zone but worked to beat us with out a single zone being captured in the match and would give us the power play until it became evident we were going to win with it then finished us off. It is getting worse and worse that Destiny's pvp is being filled up with groups of pvp junkies all on fire teams and it is not fair to the casual player.

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  • Freelance is an option 🤦🏼‍♂️

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  • I just don't play it. Bungie will most likely only change things when the number of players playing the activity drops significantly. So suggest not bothering to play the Playlist. At all

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  • Pvp has been a mess since the game launched. skillbased matchmaking doesnt even exist eventho bungie said it does. went into comp and i get matched with 3kd flawless players in the enemy team, meanwhile i probably dont even have a 1.5 kd. not even their ranking is close to mine, which goes to show just how bad the matchmaking is

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  • Skill issue. I play rumble and I win some and lose some. Get better to the point you win some of your games or be a quitter and leave PvP.

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  • Edited by Crazy_1_speed: 2/20/2022 12:58:28 AM
    While I agree that pvp matchmaking is terrible, a lot of players haven’t realized the difference between being garbage at pvp and getting thrown into bad lobbies. Huge difference. Also lobby balancing is the real issue more or less

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  • Edited by A_mo: 2/17/2022 9:13:41 PM
    IB has a freelance node so you don't have to play against stacked teams. Although you may have to deal with some serious chicanery. Or maybe that's just me. Chicanery I say!

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    • Bring life-support! It's a sinking ship! Almost helpless! They throw crossplay at it but even that can't save it! 😂😂😂 Broken!

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    • Edited by Q.Q: 2/18/2022 4:14:16 PM
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      You also forgot about how unbalanced the matches are at times lol Or when you are thrown into a losing match like 8 to 59 kind of losing... One of the biggest lie would be that teams/matches would be made according to similar skill levels...

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    • My query is this - all things being equal and on the basis that my kd is as average as it gets (ie just under 1.0), how is it that, if matchmaking is actually working, for my last 83 games my ratio is 33W:50L. I’m no statistician but that seems to be somewhat wrong🤔🤔??

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      • You being incompetent at something doesn't entitle you to safe spaces and participation trophies. If you que into crucible expect to play anyone and everyone, the onus is not on the game to coddle you and keep you in a Kiddie pool.

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        • PvP in this game will never be fixed. The streamers and sweats will quit if it goes to SBMM because they don't want to face each other. They'll lie about lag issues (like the current CBMM system doesn't lag a ton also) and whine and complain about wanting to relax in a competitive game mode. This community sucks and bungo encourages it. You can post these threads all day, and you're right, matchmaking does need help, but nobody cares. Watch PvP on YT and twitch like bungo, streamers, and sweats want.

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          • I’d rather not split the matchmaking more so I have to play someone from Peru or India every time I want play with friends simply because you don’t have any.

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          • Nah, it needs SBMM.

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            • [quote]It would be really nice if all pvp activities separated fire teams from individual players. Even the most skilled players individually could not average more than 5-15 defeats and 15 at best on an average. The fireteams get all giddy in being creative in just how many different angles they could take everyone and I am always being put on teams that no one is talking to each other on, or fire teams. So as it is matching me with other individuals and Iron Banner is a nightmare. And regular pvp is getting that way to. I had a team I played against last week, who was getting all smart with the individual players they were being matched against and would not capture a zone but worked to beat us with out a single zone being captured in the match and would give us the power play until it became evident we were going to win with it then finished us off. It is getting worse and worse that Destiny's pvp is being filled up with groups of pvp junkies all on fire teams and it is not fair to the casual player.[/quote] It needs something. Some changes definitely need to be made. Not sure that's the way it should go.

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            • Hmmmm....sounds EXACTLY like a team my son and I played against twice last weekend. Did the EXACT same thing. We beat them the first time (barely) second time we got stomped.

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            • Edited by Grape: 2/18/2022 9:29:17 AM
              i exclusively played CSGo for the last few weeks, then played trials on the weekend. We didn´t go flawless cause one mate had one more win than we did so we faced flawless pool on the last matches and simply weren´t ready for that. However, like 2-3 h of playtime let me realize a few things: - The Lag is crazy bad, even when it´s not lagging the shots felt delayed. -Lobby balancing is even worse now. -Warlocks are still OP AF -Mid tree arcstrider is still bugged.

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              • "Help"? More like intensive therapy!

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              • [quote]It would be really nice if all pvp activities separated fire teams from individual players. Even the most skilled players individually could not average more than 5-15 defeats and 15 at best on an average. The fireteams get all giddy in being creative in just how many different angles they could take everyone and I am always being put on teams that no one is talking to each other on, or fire teams. So as it is matching me with other individuals and Iron Banner is a nightmare. And regular pvp is getting that way to. I had a team I played against last week, who was getting all smart with the individual players they were being matched against and would not capture a zone but worked to beat us with out a single zone being captured in the match and would give us the power play until it became evident we were going to win with it then finished us off. It is getting worse and worse that Destiny's pvp is being filled up with groups of pvp junkies all on fire teams and it is not fair to the casual player.[/quote] No sense in complaining at this point anymore. For those hoping it get better, well it’s year 7 and things were taken away. It’s not gonna get better. At this point just group up and have fun. Play solo and have fun. We gotta stop spending the energy that is going wasted when you could focus on grouping up or own skills…

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              • I'm hoping that the next twab is about that....or at least with the changes to gambit, that their next move will be to apply freelance to crucible

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              • Hey dont know if you read TWAB they are going to try and seperate solos and stacks in all activities in the near future

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              • If it's not profiting Bungie it doesn't need any change.

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              • When I play solo I mostly play against other solo players with a sprinkling of teams of 2-3. But I very rarely get put against teams of 5-6. But when I’m in a fireteam of 2 and above then usually I’m facing bigger fireteams. But regardless of all that it’s the last week of the longest season we’ve ever had. Player numbers low. Match making can’t afford to be as picky as you want.

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              • When I, as a solo get in a 3000+ ELO team: [url]https://ibb.co/ThZkthZ[/url] Those players are in a Top 500 in multiple things. Does that mean that i'm also as good as they are? Or does this mean that they are always on the good side of peer-to-peer, so they always get the connection?

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