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10/12/2018 11:35:45 PM
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PvP meta and how's it awful

The Crucible is awful right now shotguns are everywhere pulse rifles are still meta and certain hand cannons are just over used. I can name about 4 weapons that need a need soon because people that have no skill use these weapons. Bygones needs a nerf it's overused and im sick and tired of seeing it over and over. 2nd Ace of Spades needs a nerf soon as well im sick and tired of seeing this weapons over and over. Trust hand cannon is annoying and needs a nerf. Shotguns also needs a nerf once Bungie announced that shotguns where going to be moved in the secondary slot I knew that they where going to be a huge problem. I love Destiny and love grinding the Crucible and I feel like these problems need to be solved before Bungie pulls a Rise of Iron and take away our special ammo again. I can't be the only one who feels this.

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  • Personally, my only gripe is just the prevalence of Shotguns. Definitely not the end of the world, but it's just frustrating to see so often.

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    • I think you have to have at least a 1.0kd for anything you say to have any weight. people who are bad at the game are always going to complain about things that increase the skill gap.

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      • So, nerf everything? Shut up damned clown.

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      • Just quit playing the game. That will fix all of your problems.

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      • You seem like the kinda clown that challenges a sniper across the map with an smg. Just learn to play properly and quit blaming everything else for you dying. You’ll have a lot more fun.

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        • Can you do us a favor and give us a list of what weapons take no skill to use and which are outside of the meta enough to use?

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        • You're clueless. 0.6 kd you have no skill pvp has loads of options ATM loads. The meta is not really come though yet. In quick play use anything tbh. Comp is a whole other story tho. Get good. Stop raging play for fun.

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        • Crucible is the best it's ever been.

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          • I said something similar and didn't use the nerf word and got jumped on big time. The ttk in this game is too fast. Might as well play cod. I understand why people wanted it reduced but team shooting is even worse now. You die in the blink of an eye and don't p,at with team good luck. Bygones shoots around corners it seems . That gun is too good.

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          • You’re not the only one, Crucible is nothing more than a lesson in purgatory in its current state, it’s so imbalanced it’s not even funny anymore. I don’t agree with nerfing everything though, you’re right there are a few weapons that are massively overused but nerfing them all isn’t the answer. That said, shotguns do need a hefty range nerf, they’re more like snipers now. One thing I hate about Crucible since Forsaken is that it feels more and more like another CoD clone favouring Run & Gun tactics, something I hate because actual tactics are next to useless. The maps are too cramped and the TTK of weapons too low, that’s my opinion anyway.

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            • imagine the year before the weapon was invented, where open world skirmishes where handles with sword, axe, kitana and many more.... where you could engage a foe with rage and anger knowing the only way to do damage is by actually cleaving his skull in half! imagine that world existed. imagine... for a second, that game is free on Microsoft Xbox Store. now imagine.... that you download that game. and go play it. imagine the nay say when there shall be a call of nerf on the mighty sword. # NERF EMOTES

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            • You haven't mentioned one weapon that is hard to get. It's not as if you can't get them as well. One reason pulse rifles are so common is because of a quest. Same with shotguns and hand cannons. Once everyone finishes those quests they will move on to something else.

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            • No nerf to Bygones. The nature of Pulses just means that they have to be a foundational weapon. Unlike scout rifles they shoot multiple bullets that all have to land in order to do optimal damage. If they buffed scout rifles they would become dominant. I continue to not be able to perform with handcannons so personally don't feel like they need to be nerfed. The thing about shotgus is its a question of either having them or not having them. There really isn't a way for everyone to have access to them and for them to be balanced. What they should definitely not do is put them back in the heavy spot because having one or two people on the same team running around with a shotgun is definitely worse than having everyone have one. At least this way you have a chance against someone with one because you can have one too. And having everyone fighting over heavy ammo during season 3 was the lowest point of Crucible IMO.

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            • I’ve said it before and I’ll keep saying it, the weapons aren’t the issue, the maps are, almost all of the D2 maps are designed for 4’s not 6’s which means they’re close quarters... now class what weapons benefit from close quarters? Shotguns, hand cannons, sidearms and fast fire rate pulses, now what do all those weapons have in common? They’re ruling the meta right now because they’re the weapons best suited for the types of engagements we have, but look at maps like burning shrine and pantheon, they’re D1 maps designed for 6’s and guess what happens on those? No particular set of weapons excel, everything is usable on them, so please I beg you stop asking for weapon nerfs.

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              • What meta? There's a wide variety of shotguns available. :P

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                • Primaries are way too weak on body shots. We need at least D1 levels. That would make dealing with fast moving apes much easier.

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                • A lot of these problems would go away if snipers had less flinch ;)

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                  • Bygone dont need a nerf, 390 RPM pulses are in a nice spot right now + they are the most forgiving archetype. If you want a good challenge of mastery, try 540 RPM Rapid Fire Frames. They have the second fastest TTK yet theyre the most unforgiving due to if missing one of the crit, your TTK increases tremendously. Ace of Spade dont need a nerf. AOS is an example of how an Exotic worthy of the "Exotic" title. You still gotta land your 3 crit for that optimal TTK. And even if you have Momento Mori active, its still a 3 tap all crit for any Guardian that is full health at 5+ Resilience. Trust is true its name. Its trusthworthy and reliable. Highly consistent out of all 180 RPM handcannons; therefore, it dont need a nerf. It requires 4 crit to down a full health guardian. Even so with 4 crit, it still has a TTK of exactly 1.0 second, meaning it has a higher ttk than most of D2 weapons. Shotguns. They can be annoying to deal with; however, they still require a degree of skill in order to be efficient. Sure you can ape with it, but closing that gap between you and another oppenent that is at your skill level or better than you takes some skill. Slugs on the other hand requires a precision shot in order to guarantee that 1 shot kill, not all of us are aim bots and aiming for the head can be hard sometime for others. Shotguns can still be counter by smart plays and especially sidearms. Sidearms + backpeddalling is the most effective way to shut down a shotty rusher. In a sense, shotguns does not need a nerf. Play smart, practice your aim, understand your engagement and you can outgun shotty rushers. We dont want a D1 2.0 where everything is nerf to the ground.

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                    • Git gud

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                    • 3 characters in the 380’s? Get the hell out of here.

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                    • Edited by epicperon: 10/13/2018 6:13:42 AM
                      You are saying 0 constructive things. You want things to get nerfed just because “they’re annoying” and you’re “sick of seeing them”. You’re the biggest baby I’ve seen on here so far. You don’t even have any forsaken level characters. You haven’t even been on bnet for a year. Don’t play crucible and never come to the forums again

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                      • Git gud

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                        • sooo what you're saying is...nerf fusion?

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                        • 47 hours played.....

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                          • Please go away

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                            • [quote] I can name about 4 weapons that need a need soon [u][b]because people that have no skill[/b] [/u]use these weapons. [/quote] Why is it everyone who uses this line.....HAS NO SKILL THEMSELVES !?!?!?! https://destinytracker.com/d2/profile/xbl/saltshaker2025 .66KD 35/65 Win/Loss ratio

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