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Edited by AVERNL:
6/14/2017 12:17:35 PM
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Luke Smith can not be serious.......
"In not playing the first Destiny game from 2014, you haven’t really missed anything." - Luke Smith
This is his response to a question about how to get new players interested in Destiny 2.
Why does he feel the need to pretend that NOTHING happened in Destiny 1 and thus new players can just 'get right into it'.
What an absurd idea.
I get that Destiny was essentially a beta game...but still...lots of stuff 'happened'.
They sold three separate expansions of stuff 'happening'.
I do not understand the need to deny the game's history to attract new players. They missed some stuff.
Not a big deal, I am sure they can still get into Destiny 2.....but talk about a false assertion/premise.
Such a PC, garbage comment, especially from Luke Smith who generally "keeps it real".
End rant.
Article: http://www.pcgamer.com/destiny-2s-luke-smith-on-pc-features-pvp-new-subclasses-and-more/
Edit: I played Destiny at launch on Xbox 360. Have not played since they dropped legacy progression and will be purchasing Destiny 2 on PC. I recognize that while Rise of Iron was light on content I still will essentially be missing out on that experience.
Edit 2: A lot of folks are saying Destiny 2 will leave Destiny 1 behind......except that millions of guardians are going to be transferring over.....and thus that is nonsense. They develop amnesia I imagine? Not sure what people are getting at.
Edit 3: I am excited for the reset in Destiny 2. I am hopeful there will be enough content and large places to explore to keep me busy on one guardian at a casual pace. I will bring up old adventures whenever I can because Destiny 1 was full of fun moments and my new guardian will need the knowledge of those stories to become legend.
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It sounds like it's the obfuscated way to tell people that they are doing a story reboot. Fine, then why not just come out and say it????
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2 RepliesLuke Smith is a whack job. Always speaks out of place and gets the wrong message across each and every time. Why does Bungie even let him speak?
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In their eyes Destiny 1 was a bust. Best way to get new players to buy a sequel is by saying that the previous game doesn't really matter.
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Edited by Crashdogg76: 6/18/2017 1:50:36 PM
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How to take something out of context, lesson one.
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1 ReplyThe Destiny community in a nutshell👆👆 "I don't understand what Luke Smith said, so I'm just gonna take it as an insult..."
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I believe what he means is that new players will not need knowledge of the 1st game to understand D2. Judging by Lake of Shadows and the Splicer strike, important events from D1 will continue to have implications in the world of D2. So if you did play D1, great! You have all that knowledge but you won't need to throw it away. If you didn't play, the lack of knowledge won't keep you from enjoying D2's world.
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2 RepliesDont worry, you're right. And so is he. But you're both wrong as well. D1 had a lot of shit happening, yes. Stopping the Vex from taking Venus and Mars, more or less... killing the great Hive Gods and disbanding the Taken, halting SIVA and the evolution of the Fallen. And most importantly, pissing off the Cabal. The latter is the only reason D2 exists so far, story wise. However, you dont need all that info to play D2. Just like we didnt need any backstory to our Guardian in D1. However, new players [b]will[/b] be confused by things and the story will either reveal part of D1s story and repeat the same info for the old players, or they let the double explanation behind and leave the new players to figure it out themselves by going back to D1.
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13 RepliesDownvoted for being a dumbass. More people just looking for a reason to complain or be upset. Happens every time Bungie says anything. [spoiler]and you wonder why Bungie doesn't talk outside the TWaB. You guys will [i]find [/i]a way to take it wrong. [/spoiler]
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4 RepliesWhich is why I'll be acting like destiny 2 never happened -blam!- this game, -blam!- Bungie. Their business practices and the way they treat their non-streamer community is disgusting
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1 ReplyI beat your really upset because you wish you could grow a beard like his.......Unfortunately you testosterone levels wont allow you to :(
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Like "the game lore is a complete shit! We ll remove it in destiny 2"
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At least those who start in D2 will be used to weak primaries. Those of us who experienced the powerful exotics are truly blessed. D2 noobs won't have the game nerfed away from them, until Hamrick comes around...
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12 RepliesHe can be serious. You know why? ....because all if not most of the major plot-threads from Destiny 1 are resolved and done. Black Garden? Just a Vex shrine to the darkness. We busted it up. Vault of Glass? Just a Vex laboratory that we done and cleared. Skolas and Crota? Both storys resolved and finished. Oryx is dead and shattered and we know just as much as we need about that. We know exactly how and why SIVA came around and what happened to the Iron Lords and all that jazz. If I didn't know what the Destiny universe was about, I wouldn't need to know about those previous characters going into Destiny 2 because they are no longer relevant. I don't need much to understand the basis of what Destiny 2 is. Humanity is broken, and its heros are shattered. You need to stop bad guy from doing bad guy things. Simple. Another point. Destiny 2 isn't a solo-title. If a player has [i]any[/i] desire to understand the game-universe more, then they can take ten seconds to open up a search engine and type in "Destiny lore/story" and be satisfied. If they don't want to be bothered to figure it out, then they don't care at all.
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16 RepliesEdited by RE-_VERSE_-: 6/14/2017 1:02:49 PMI feel the urge to defend Luke Smith since I followed him when he first joined Bungie back in 2007. The guy knows his stuff. Going from a weekly blog writer to a full on creative director shows just how much he is invested in realizing one of Bungie's core beliefs: make the games that they want to play. Luke understands the value of what a player experience should be like when it comes playing a Bungie game. Some would not believe how much feedback he takes up the but for the sake of Destiny's fan-base. He wants to succeed in delivering the best game possible for everyone who wants to "get in" on the fun that is the Destiny experience. Hell the guy spearheaded TTK expansion in order to give Destiny's lifespan a second chance. At the very least, I trust Smith when he openly talks about the successes and failures of Destiny and wanting to make it something better. And honestly, if Luke calls out the first game for being something new players will not be missing out on, ya'll better believe he recognizes it's impact on those who did become attached and invested in the initial three years of the Destiny franchise.
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3 Repliesdid you hear that he has also suggested that many of the loose ends (stranger wink wink) will never be resolved? clearly we are moving away from what destiny was going to be when the idea was created and started.. then fractured a year before launch and has grown or regressed depending on your view point, to what it is and will be now. Missing the first part of anything, be it a book, movie or game shouldn't hurt your experience in the sequal but, it should not simply devalue the experience either and the sequal should enhance it.
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4 RepliesHe wants everyone to forget the bullshit they've pulled back to only .04% belief. Which coincidentally is the same chances of me buying destiny 2.
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2 RepliesLmao. I called this in December 2015. You didn't see it coming? They haven't really been thankful to their community for some time. That's why their "thank you" feels like a door greeter at Walmart. They say "thank you", but they really mean "don't mess up my day, and go [b][i]F[/i][/b] yourself"
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I'm pretty sure that he's saying that you don't have to have played D1 to know what's going on and enjoy D2.
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6 RepliesI think that luke just suffers from a serious condition of foot in mouth disease. He seemed very well rehearsed and scripted at the reveal, but it's the interviews that he is just so bad at. It's not even that he is saying the wrong thing, it's that he has an idea he is trying to express, and chooses to do it in the worst possible way.
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10/10 would read misquote again
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4 RepliesIf you're not a D1 veteran, seeing the Dubious Volley in the reveal gameplay did not mean the same thing. I know first hand because I watched it with a friend who was essentially new to Destiny, and his reaction was no where close to mine. I can imagine there will be some of the same situations in D2. For example, if we see the exo-stranger pop out of no where half way through the campaign and say "It's time to explain", that will not have the same effect on new players as it will on Veterans.
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What happens in Destiny 1 stays in Destiny 1.
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Because they don't want new people feel like they need to know the whole story and lore of D1 to play D2. Which is completely fine as a new player people shouldn't be loss on what's going on because they haven't invested in the previous game
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Edited by Kil (Inept): 6/14/2017 5:24:45 PMI lolled when I read it but you've got to take it in context. He's talking to a PC site trying to hype up the game for pc players new to the franchise. He's hardly going to say "yeah you need buy a console and invest 50 hours in Destiny 1 or there's just no point." Let's face it Destiny 1's story would fit on one side of a piece of A4 and even then 50% of it would be bollocks. D2 is gonna take it back to the beginning and explain it all again. That's why the whole losing your light storyline is there. Reboot.
