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10/7/2015 6:32:29 PM
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Destiny is going to die without ranked playlists / Custom Lobbies

There is no easy way to say it... This game has so much potential, but without a way to track growth, or provide competitive goals to aspire to, Destiny is going to fall apart.

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  • Couldn't agree with you more. I hail from fighting game communities, the same rule applies. Bungie is putting more pressure than they need to to grow the game. Having things such as private lobbies allows players to host tourneys, CB's, streamed sparring, and much more. The players have the ability to help grow the game into something great and I honestly feel Bungie is robbing us of that right.

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  • I agree with the premise of ranked playlists but I don't think it's as dire as you make it out to be. As a below average pvp player I can still have fun with their matchmaking and I'm always working on improving. I think it's different for you because you are a competitive person and very skilled at this game. You are probably very difficult to matchmake because of your skill level and geographic proximity to other players of your caliber. Dedicated servers and ranked playlists would solve the issue you're having but for someone like me the existing matchmaking is just fine.

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    • Edited by Void: 10/8/2015 10:36:04 PM
      A ranked playlist or private matches would do wonders for this game. Many of my friends are top tier players. When I play with them I often get bored because it's nearly impossible to lose with a team of 6. I think the new Trials matchmaking is a step in the right direction but that's only one playlist and it's only there on the weekend.

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    • Hey Mtashed!! You should do a crucible school on adapting to the new meta. I know a lot of players are still in the dark about the power balance in the crucible as of now and you could even look into adapting in general.

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    • I genuinely do not see why people remain ignorant to this idea. It is a fact that if there was not competitive in many games that those games would not have even come close to how big they are now. League of Legends, Counter Strike, Dota: prime examples of this topic. Although the communities of these games are very toxic, some of which more toxic than Call of Duty, the competitive aspect implemented in those games increased growth exponentially. Look at Call of Duty for instance. Black ops 2 introduced League Play which allowed players to play in competitive style matches formed and modeled around the call of duty esports rules and community. Although that playlist was in the game and a big reason why many enjoyed black ops 2, the normal pubs scene was still much more massive. Skip to the next year with ghosts. Ghosts is hated by most for its drab look, feel (i personally liked the feel of ghosts, just the maps were too big and many of the weapons were underwhelming to say the least), and lack of a proper competitive playlist. this made many stick to an older generation game: Black ops 2. Now with the current, Call of Duty: Advanced warfare, there is a competitive playlist, but the reason why Sledgehammer was not successful with it is because they allowed variant weapons into that playlist. This gave people unfair advantages, making the competitive playlist of AW just another pubs playlist with poor ranking and banned perks/ score streaks. This brings me to the next topic on this post. People are telling Mtashed to play Trials of Osiris when it comes back. Yes, Trials is the dedicated "competitive" playlist for Destiny, along with iron banner, but it is not set on a level playing field. In trials, the gear you have dictates your performance more than that of your individual gun skill. Remember year one thorn and how if anyone had it in his or her hand they were instantly a god? A competitive playlist in destiny would need to introduce not only weapon balancing and possibly new weapons entirely made specifically for this competitive playlist, but also skilled based matchmaking would be a NECESSITY because nobody likes to be completely wiped by another team because they are complete gods compared to your team. Also, LAN events would benefit Destiny a ton too, like Mtashed had said. Not only is it already possible, because there are LAN events, not for competitive play however, for whenever people play the game live at a gaming event like e3 or games com, but it would and should be easy for activision and bungie to pull this off with activation being the biggest console multiplayer production company there is and bungie was able to do it with Halo when competitive esports was not anywhere close to where it is today. If LAN's are for some reason out of the question, then at least have the ability to create private multiplayer matches for the crucible for goodness sake. That should be something so incredibly easy for Bungie and Activision to pull off. The only reason why i can think that they have not added that ability is because they are plain lazy. I am not bashing on destiny pvp multiplayer at all, the game and playlist are great. It is just that when you are consistently decimating your opponent or vice versa, there needs to be a better way of getting better matches. I personally hope that they would do a competitive playlist for Destiny because it will make Call of Duty push and try harder with its new Arena mode being introduced in black ops 3 (CoD is my love in fps, nothing can change that). And besides, if you don't like the competitive playlist if it's introduced, don't play it. You aren't being forced to even play multiplayer anyways.

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      • Hey mtashed love your vids !! Bump

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      • Edited by The Worm Keeper: 10/8/2015 6:35:57 PM
        Less than 100,000 subscribers. Confirmed scrub and argument is invalid

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        • Why are people constantly making 5, 10 minute videos on this? THIS GAME IS NOT COMPETITIVE. If you want to play a balanced shooter play something else. End of story.

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          • Wow! Your k/d is the best I've ever seen!

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          • Really? Cause it's done just fine and I know more ppl are buying, more and more of my coworkers are buying, I've started a cult pretty much at work with destiny. Started with one coworker buying it a few months ago. Now they all are and me being a veteran beta player, they come to me for advice.

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          • I would love custom lobbies not so sure about ranked playlists but they both sound fun

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          • Not one "hi mtashed!" comment?

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          • That makes no sense. Only like 5% of players would benefit from comp not to mention the pvp community AS A WHOLE is a minority. So what your saying is any combination of wrong, stupid, attenion whorey and stupid.

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          • Destiny is going to die because of alot more than ranked Playlists.

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          • Edited by LimitTester: 10/8/2015 7:31:26 PM
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          • That's what people said a year ago.

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            • Its not going to -blam!-ing die... No way are the majority of the play base going to leave because the PvP is not very competitive. I play Crucible Religiously but nobody would still be here if what your saying is the case.

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            • I understand what your saying and I don't even like PVP. You are 100% correct they should do it.

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            • Destiny will never be competitive because: the player connection system is absolute shit, the variables of Aim Assist create "correct" loadouts, the inability to balance Supers

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            • Anyone know what is the name of his primary is he was using?

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              • Destiny isn't all about competitive goals or ranks, it mostly about gear, gameplay, and rpg elements. Crucible also is mostly about all that stuff, people want to do Osiris for a reason. Gear.

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                • I'm gonna have to say no. PvP isn't the center focus of Destiny. But then neither is PvE as shallow as it is. I honestly don't know what the focus is....money I guess.

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                • Thats way we got trails of osiris

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                  • I feel like there might be a lot of issues with that.

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                  • Destiny is not PVP-centered... and it will never be competitve with bullsh!t supers like sunbreakers lmao. Go play halo 5 when it comes out...much more competitive there...PVP in destiny = killing 15 year-olds for funzies...not really challenging.

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                  • Agreed. It boggles the mind why the PvP side of this game does not have proper in-game leaderboards or ranking/stat tracking. The crucible is a brilliantly original take on MP and could easily become properly competitive. Maybe come Destiny 2 things will change.

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