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originally posted in:Secular Sevens
Edited by New Radical:
5/5/2014 5:39:32 PM
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Supreme Court Upholds Town Prayer
[quote]The Supreme Court on Monday ruled that a town in upstate New York did not violate the Constitution by starting its public meetings with a prayer from a “chaplain of the month” who was almost always Christian.
Justice Anthony M. Kennedy, writing for the majority in a 5-to-4 decision that divided the court’s more conservative members from its liberal ones, said the prayers were merely ceremonial. They were neither unduly sectarian nor likely to make members of other faiths feel unwelcome.[/quote]
It is surely a coincidence that all of the members of the majority in this case were Catholic and all of non-Christians in the court were in the minority.
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3 RepliesHow about the "chaplain of the month" be rotated throughout the various religions of the community? Let the Christians get it one meeting, Jews the next, Muslims the next, Hindus, etc. I mean, if these people really do care about religious freedom, surely they wouldn't mind handing the mic over every other meeting if this is just a ceremonial thing and their prayers don't offend members of other faiths.
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Who bumped this?
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1 ReplyEdited by Ktan_Dantaktee: 5/14/2014 3:39:40 PMLord forbid Christians actually show some display of faith. [quote]It is surely a coincidence that all of the members of the majority in this case were Catholic and all of non-Christians in the court were in the minority.[/quote] How often does that happen? I'm not being sarcastic. If a town that is mostly Christian wants to pray before every meeting, then LET THEM. The others don't have to participate. If a bunch of Jews wanted to pray before a meeting in a mostly Jewish town, then they should be able to; the same with them and every other religion.
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6 Replies[quote][quote] It is surely a coincidence that all of the members of the majority in this case were Catholic and all of non-Christians in the court were in the minority.[/quote] Thats exactly what democracy and popular sovereignty is. If the majority rules, thats the majority of the community. If majority lost, there would be a lot more people not being in support of the outcome. You just debunked yourself.
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I am tired of these 5-4 rulings along party lines. The divide in our body of politic has invaded every aspect of our government and lives. This should have been a cut and dried case. Instead we have more partisan politics in the judiciary. Our government is dying, our way of life is ending, and the mentality of our party vs their party is what is killing it.
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25 RepliesSo this is how liberty dies...with thunderous applause.
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27 RepliesMakes sense to me. I don't see the logic in saying "I don't like your prayer here/now, so I'm going to try to get the Supreme Court to make you stop." To me, seperation of church and state means no decicions should be based on any religion or religious views. It doesn't mean you need to make displays of religion illegal in government places/functions.
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2 RepliesIt's praying, who actually cares so much that they'd take this all the way up to the Supreme court?
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Edited by Banned n3rd: 5/14/2014 3:28:19 PMOh no! A prayer once a month? How ever will they survive?!?!? Of course they have to attend the meeting and participate in the prayer, too, because they'll be put to death if they don't.
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15 RepliesNot that I really care much about this because I don't think it's likely to be adversely affecting anyone or anything, but maybe some of these people could actually try reading the book they love to publicly venerate so much. [quote][i]When you pray, you are not to be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they may be seen by men. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full. But you, when you pray, go into your inner room, close your door and pray to your Father who is in secret, and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you. - Matthew 6:6[/i][/quote]
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12 RepliesI'm really waiting for the conservative justices to die out. Hopefully a leftist president is in office by then.
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Number of people affected by this: 0.
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Pray on your own time.
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5 RepliesEdited by Hawke: 5/13/2014 4:42:44 AMGood. Only cause it'll upset the militant Atheists. To clarify: I couldn't care less if you're an Atheist. If you are, kudos to you. I care when you go on about how Atheism is the only intelligent choice or get upset when a small town opens with a prayer. I mean, the government shouldn't tell you what religion to practice. You shouldn't be forced to go to a Church or Synagogue of Mosque if you don't want to. You shouldn't have people shoving their religion down your throats. But, when you're whining about a small (clearly Christian) town opening their town meetings with a prayer, you just need to shut up. It's not like the government is being like: "BE CHRISTIAN OR ELSE!" Or "If you're not Christian, you're not human!" It's a simple (optional) prayer. Suck it up.
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1 ReplyWhy can't they do that shit in church? No one wants to see these idiots talking to their imaginary friend.
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It's like people forgot that the persecution Christians faced in this country wasn't at the hands of atheists but other Christians if only we didn't all skip third grade history
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6 RepliesEdited by NATO: 5/12/2014 8:59:03 PMYou got your gay marrige and abortion things so shut your face.
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33 RepliesVictory for freedom of religion.
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I ain't mad.
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4 RepliesLivin' on prayer WOAAAAAH LIVIN' ON A PRAYER
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12 RepliesEdited by darkcrusader117: 5/6/2014 9:14:29 PM20 points to whoever can point out where the constitution has separation of church and state.
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1 Replydaily reminder that disagreeing with this ruling = fedora
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What the -blam!-.
