Personally I feel the PvP is some of the best it’s been

I agree Edit: I don't believe it's dead. It's salvageable. I just agree with much of your assessment.

[quote]Bungie, you’ve done it. Destiny 2 PvP is now a glorified waiting room, where movement is punished, creativity is pointless, and gameplay has slowed to a tedious crawl. Gone are the days of high risk and high reward. Instead, we’re left with a meta that rewards players for sitting tight, relying on auto rifles and pulse rifles that map opponents from a safe distance. Why bother pushing when you can just aimlessly chip away at anything that dares to move? Truly revolutionary. Apparently, Bungie has decided that PvP should cater to the “power fantasy” of players who, in any other shooter, wouldn’t stand a chance. Now, everyone gets to matter in the Crucible. No need for skill, timing, or precision – just sit back, shoot, and let Bungie’s vision for ease of use carry you. Fusion rifles complete the picture, killing off any chance of close-quarters skill. Push? You die. Every attempt to move forward is met with a wave of ranged fire, making the once-dynamic battlefield a stagnant shooting gallery. And abilities – barricades, healing rifts, grenade spam – only add to the slog. PvP, once full of energy, is now a defensive grind where every fight feels the same. This isn’t balance. This is Bungie handing everyone a free pass to power, at the expense of what made PvP thrilling. Congratulations, Bungie. You’ve turned Destiny 2 into a slow-motion, imagination-free crawl where holding down a spot is all that matters, and even the least-skilled players get to feel like gods. Well done.[/quote] Everytime i see a fusion bot user , i simply use a sniper

I'm just sick of matching the same people all the time.

Apparently I've heard that controller has better aim assist then mouse keyboard. Other than that if the damage is balanced relatively then there is skill in everything

Logged in last week for trials couldnt find a match. Couldn’t get games in as I was a hunter trying to play the “labs”. I gave up… Tried this week my teams were terrible every single game it was definitely stacked against me! The team balance was terrible. I ended up 3v1 most rounds getting farmed. I left a game cos my team were just throwing! Was down 3-0 and then lost that round (4-0) and went to orbit. Got hit with a suspension. So I turned BO6 on and had a BLAST! Got some gold camos finished off and actually had fun.. Is this the end of destiny? What can they do now?

It figures that the first time in ten years I'm enjoying using a shotgun and it's not meta.

I think this really only applies to the Highly competitive 3v3 gamemodes. Rumble and 6v6 modes don’t face the same issue because death is less of a deterrent. The way I see it is that a higher level of confidence or a lack of perceived risk will lead to a more risky and by extension, more aggressive play. Now, in 3v3, if you want to force close range engagements, you have to be fast. Not just that, but you have to understand map layout and be able to flake the opponents. This provides both support to your team who may be engaging in long range combat, but it will also stay engaging for you as you are actually doing something (or trying to). Now, once you flank someone, you have two advantages. 1. Because you are flanking them, this allows your team to also push. The pressure from two different sides is dangerous because if they and try to pick you off, they themselves will be picked off by your team and vise versa. 2. You have close range options and if they are trying to force long range engagements, then they clearly don’t. Now, some pulses are good at dueling and have decent range (BXR, Scalar Protocol, etc) but, you will have the advantage there.

Gam is ded yaddayadda

My main complaint is the matchmaking and the collision mode in comp being N the worst mode ever.

Look at the casuals, utterly missing the brilliance of Bungie's PvP design in Destiny 2! They don't see that Bungie, with the patience of a saint, crafts each balance patch with the care of a master jeweler setting gems. While they whine about their favorite overpowered gun getting a "nerf," they fail to grasp they're being taught the true art of PvP, sculpted by the hands of game design deities. I, on the other hand, revel in this divine dance, while they remain in the shadows, unaware of the masterful lesson unfolding before them.

wait,there is pvp in the game? xD there is several reasons people (like myselfe) give up on pvp. MM is broken. People dont play fair. Sweatlord arena. So i told myselfe,yea let these kids have it theyr way.there is other games out there,destiny is a lost cause by now.