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Edited by Kiro - 13:
12/4/2023 9:19:45 PM
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Stasis recieved more nerfs then buffs in the last 3months
First off Id like to say that I dont even think Bungie is aware of the changes they are making. Theirs no way you set out with the goal to bring stasis up to speed and say "give it a bigger shot in the arm." I think this many be a case of "the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing."
[b]NERFS:[/b]
•Whisper of durance has been bugged since the beginning of season of the witch. Yes its a bug because durance still works for bleak watch. It use to increase the duration of slow and increase the duration of grenades & super. Now it only increases the duration of duskfeild from 8sec to 10 sec thats it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNt8YE5gESg As you can see a 1 second slow.
•Next with the rework to cool downs that just went live with season of the wish erroneously increased the cool down of grenades because it greatly impacted whisper of shards. Glacial Grenade got a 8 second increase, duskfield got a 4 second increase. If you calculate in kick starter changes you are looking at a 7second(duskfield) and 12second(glacial) increase.
•Damage reduction via Whisper of Chains was curb stomped because of behemoth titan with hoarfrost-z, while warlocks and hunters got shafted. This was a situation where a targeted "surgical" change was needed but instead the lazy blanket nerf was applied.
•Whisper of shards had its stat bonus removed.
[b]Buffs:[/b]
•Shuriken consistency was improved.
•Whisper of Impetus now provides 10 resilience.
Like I said the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. As theirs no way you roll out 4 nerfs and 2 buffs when the mission goal is to improve the stasis subclass. Its also worth pointing out that Bakris builds got hit hard the utility kick start nerf.
If thats to wordy for ya heres a short had version formatted and worded exactly as Bungie would in a TWID or patch update
[spoiler]• [b]Whisper of Shards[/b]
•No longer provides +10 Resilience.
•Reduced the grenade energy return by 50%.
• [b]Whisper of Durance[/b]
•No longer effects Withering Blade.
•No longer Effects Silence & Squall.
•No longer effects Winters Shroud.
•Increased slow on direct impact only for Duskfield Grenade(increased duration unaffected).[/spoiler]
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1 ReplyEdited by jhermannITJ: 12/7/2023 12:15:36 AMThere are some bugs right now... I'm on my hunter testing it... Glacial Harvest is bugged for sure. There is a shards cooldown for regen already so there's something going on. If you have the aspect equipped, any crystal should make shards... but they DON'T. Also, on Hunter now... the melee regen is wonky, without the fragment... almost nothing. With the fragment... sometimes it's only ONE shard... never more than 2/3, to get your entire melee back. The shuriken IS much stronger now though. It says max chain of 3? I've chained through entire mobs...6,7, 8 enemies. Slow, on its own, is very strong... using one at a time is the play now. The super with the artifact is strong too. However, something is going on with shards and crystals.
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Hard agree, even after building into it hard for PvP strand just does it all better and is way more oppressive. Stasis merely a shell of what it used to be, and these buffs don't feel like they've moved any dials.
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All facts!
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Don’t forget to add the recent nerf to ballidorse wrathweavers for warlock. If you cast a frost pulse rift or use your super it make all rifts (healing, empowering, well of radiance) have no effect for everyone who gets the “stasis shard overshield” buff. I think it’s meant to be a pvp balance so that people can’t heal on top of an overshield but they forgot to separate the overshield and stasis surge parts so the buff stays after the shield breaks. And the duration of the buff it the same length as a rifts lifespan.
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1 ReplyI feel like bungie tricked me when they said that stasis was gonna get some work done to it. I was hopping for a 3.0 update to get it up to speed for final shape since we won’t be getting any new subclasses. I love stasis but I don’t get to use it that often due to my other builds outshining it. I guess stasis is just gonna remain as one of the weaker options in the game for the time being
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Edited by Punisher of Porcelain™: 12/6/2023 11:31:04 PM
Punisher of Porcelain™😂👍 - old
You’d think there’d be twice as many buffs with winter coming -
4 RepliesStasis Titan remains hands down the worst subclass in the game despite its “buffs.” I think the reason Stasis does so bad is for the simple fact that it has too much potential. The very fabric of its being is completely immobilizing opponents, making them unable to fight back. And the existence of that gives it too much power. So it’s either Stasis is trash, or it’s broken. Stasis just needs a complete rework, along with the removal of freeze. It will never be in a balanced state, because the whole subclass just rides on proccing freeze due to how broken that one single verb is. Bungie has tried to change this by making the abilities themselves stronger, and therefore taking the necessity away from freeze, but it just didn’t work. And it’s so obvious. Notice how they buffed Shiver Strike and Withering Blade, abilities that [u]can’t[/u] reliably proc freeze, but then left Penumbral Blast virtually unchanged. Because Penumbral Blast can cause freeze. They refrain from directly buffing abilities like Frostpulse or Coldsnap, and instead just increase their consistency. Bungie built the Stasis Subclass around freeze, and now they are trying to build away from it. But it just won’t work, because they based every exotic weapon, armor, or ability changes thus far on freeze. They will have to tear down every single Stasis related item or ability and rebuild it around a whole new system which they will have to create. And we all know Bungie, and spending time and money to appease the player base really isn’t their strongsuit.
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7 RepliesStasis titans died 6 months after they where created. There's one thing in pvp but to do it in pve too is disgusting
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13 RepliesGood. I hope to see it nerfed even more in the coming months.
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2 RepliesMy Stasis Hunter build is worse after the changes
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Yup and mod nerfs nake it no better
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When the revealed the Stasis “buffs” they fairly heavily hinted at actual reworks still in the oven, so my assumption is that these were rushed out to give a bit of a bump to Stasis for the start of the season while they work on the actual substantial changes, because they didn’t intend on doing anything to Stasis until the outcry at the beginning of Witch.
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I'm not blowing smoke Kiro... I know you can build. Try it out. Go into a master LS with this stuff.
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5 RepliesEdited by jhermannITJ: 12/3/2023 10:20:47 PMKiro, use the artifact mods. The descriptions don't do them any justice. I had been playing on Solar hunter most of the week, then switched to Nancy... Literally insane... it's a legit totem system... if you played MMOs or CRPGS, or tactical RPGS. The Totems are the stasis pillars... EVERYWHERE, literally all over the map with increase utility and potency. Like how last season, we got a Warminnd revival with elemental orbs? This season they introduced a Totem mechanic on Stasis builds.
