Everyone can throw a number in the room and claim that it is a fact. Only few can actually show evidence and proof.

Considering when Jav is in trials that's usually the most popular week for trials. When bungie throws out votes for maps and Jav is one of the options most people vote for jav. So tell me again how much everyone hates jav 🤷‍♂️ And also it's one of the highest played maps in scrims and tournaments within that side of destiny community.

[quote]When bungie throws out votes for maps and Jav is one of the options most people vote for jav.[/quote] You do realize that if only 1000 people participate in a vote out of 100.000 and 90% vote for that map, that's only 900 people of 100.000 people playing the game, voting for that map. We can't see how many people voted for what map in actual numbers, at least not in any way that can be taken serious. It could be the entire PvP playerbase voting. It could also just be the people playing Trials voting. It could also just be a fraction of the Trials people voting. We don't know. So taking map votes form E-Mail and TWID posts as a "face value" is flawed in itself.

Still shows that a lot of players have a liking towards jav lmao 🤣 Yet you the minority in this belive its the worst map 👀 Everyone I know and play with or have seen play the game love jav. The whole community that I've interacted with loves jav. And this is the first and probably only ever post I have ever seen that has thrown "remove jav" might wanna clue in on something.... maybe it's fine to dislike one map but not fine to assume everyone shares your same feelings towards a map. This is literally disjunction but on the opposite side if community feelings towards the maps. A large portion of the community hates disfunction yet loves jav. A large portion of players complain about disjunction yet do not complain about jav. Streamers and trials player and scrim players love jav yet hate disjunction. (Using disjunction as a example of a map that's well known to he hated).