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7/5/2022 11:52:24 PM
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Precision HC buff is a mistake...
There going to be doing 60 damage per crit right? So if I were to get even a small 10% damage buff from something like radiant... I can now 3 tap 9 resilience guardians and under... 60 with 10% is 66 x 3=198...
Sooooo everyone gets a pocket lunas howl. Bungie please reconsider.
(I despise 180s because their just precise sidearms. I don't consider them handcannons and I would delete them from existence if I could.)
Bias aside of course tho this is a mistake. 180s are gonna be so absurdly powerful that every other handcannon which would take more skill to use will be obsolete. 180s have no real recoil and take flinch pretty well. I am dreading this so much geezus.
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Id like to see some fool try to out gun the pulse No one out guns the pulse
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3 RepliesThey almost have a compulsion to over buff handcannons, it’s so tiresome at this point…
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2 RepliesAll I'm hearing is malfeasance is getting a buff, & that brings me joy.
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2 RepliesPalindrome is 3 tapping people from literally Narnia with no buff. Pulse rifles are also very competitive currently so I think 180s will fit in perfectly.
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I’m ready to see how it’ll turn out.
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Edited by Facelauss: 7/8/2022 5:17:26 PMWe will see
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3 RepliesAt this point, they might as well just Unsunset Luna's/NF and revert them back to 180s. Since Solar Hunters are the only class with on demand Radiant though, best believe you'd want at least 1-2 on your team so I don't expect nothing to change in PvP all that much. It's still going to be HC/Shotty with Hunter's, Lorelei Titans and that random Warlock who forgot to take off their PvE build. SSDD
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Extremely boring archetype too
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13 RepliesYes. A 1.0 ttk hand cannon base is gonna be so cracked when everything else outclasses it. Uh huh. Makes sense
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1 ReplyEdited by Bore: 7/8/2022 4:00:09 AM[quote]There going to be doing 60 damage per crit right? So if I were to get even a small 10% damage buff from something like radiant... I can now 3 tap 9 resilience guardians and under... 60 with 10% is 66 x 3=198... Sooooo everyone gets a pocket lunas howl. Bungie please reconsider. (I despise 180s because their just precise sidearms. I don't consider them handcannons and I would delete them from existence if I could.) Bias aside of course tho this is a mistake. 180s are gonna be so absurdly powerful that every other handcannon which would take more skill to use will be obsolete. 180s have no real recoil and take flinch pretty well. I am dreading this so much geezus.[/quote] Radiant lets 390 pulses two burst for a faster ttk. Almost no one is doing that and almost no one will be doing this with 180 hand cannons. Not to mention radiant is going to see a lot less usage next season with arc 3.0 being the new hot stuff.
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4 RepliesI’m kinda hoping the scout buff will keep them back(plus pulse are decent right now). But if they keep giving Hand cannons range, the 180s with explosives payload will rule.
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1 ReplyEdited by Soupreem: 7/6/2022 6:16:09 PMMy line of thinking is it's a bit too early to tell. For starters, 180s generally have pretty bad stat packages, offering little beyond magazine size, using Frontier's Cry as a template. Most 180s using max range have around 31 to 32-ish meters with poor stability and handling if rolling full into maximum reach. It also stands to mention that the higher fire rate also necessitates rolling for Stability, either passively or via perks like Rapid Hit. So your theoretical best rolls are going to be around 29-30 meters, and considering HCs naturally have sharper falloff than most rifles... It'll definitely be felt. Next up is the need to land 3 bullets over the 2-taps with means that already exist, which ultimately a higher chance of not hitting the optimal TTK compared to a 2-tap. A lot of the time, people will need that 4th shot or slow their fire rate a bit to ensure a 3-tap. While it's not a hard and fast rule, it's still definitely something to consider. Ultimately, I'm more looking at 150 Scouts, namely Jade Rabbit's perk getting an indirect buff to allow 2-head 1-body if the bodyshot is shot 1 or 2 on all but probably 10 Resil, combined with the Rabbit's intrinsically insanely good base stats. Only real issue is how bad Scouts are closer than ~25 to 30 meters, but Sidearms, SMGs, Shotguns, and Fusions exist to help that.
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I have a 180 crucible hand cannon with kill clip, its definitely going to be a lunas howl type of meta again. Radiant is so easy to activate and majority of players aren’t running 10 resilience unless they are titans. Its 3 tap city all over again with .67 ttk
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2 Replies3 tap lunas were fine, 2 tap lunas no , when the current meta is a pulse rifle with the same ttk and more range i don't see the problem
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It’s at least something other than a 140 hand cannon even if it’s still just another braindead hand cannon.
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13 RepliesThis game has fusion rifles in it.
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3 RepliesYou wanna refresh the feeling of crucible… nerf the crap out of all HC archetypes for 2+ seasons. Every single one.
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Edited by Cal O'Mari: 7/7/2022 4:32:41 AMI guess it'll be my time to inconvenience other players now😂. I love 180 hand cannons and they're usually my hand cannon go to, but I could see where this will become a problem. Bungie has basically set Crucible to hand cannons and snipers only. I can see where people would be a bit edgy about it to say the least. P.S. Sorry ahead of time for anyone I may dispatch with a 180 next season. I'm not trying to be toxic, I just love them.
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11 RepliesIts deserved. No handcannon should take 5 shots to kill while 140s only take 3. Its not that big of a deal, Bungie nerfed this archetype into oblivion for one gun that isn't even a 180 anymore and just should have never been made. Its gonna take 4 shots now still pretty unforgiving in a pulse rifle and 140 dominant meta.
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This change is extremely dumb agreed
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Epitah will get you owned !!! 😁
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[b][i]laughs in Malfeasance [/i][/b]
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1 ReplyWe had 2 tap 120's and DMT 150 rpm for the half of the year, I think we can get over it
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1 ReplyI mean radiant Le Mon can one shot 5 res and below which is more common than you think
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So what I’m hearing is 10 resilience is metah
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1 ReplyAre we falsely assuming everyone and their mother doesn't have an overshield or restoration*2 to gain enough health to survive?
