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Edited by Blimgauss: 10/23/2020 6:53:00 PM
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Crucible players should consider not buying Beyond Light.

As of now, I don’t plan to purchase BL. And if, as I am, you’re dissatisfied with the state of pvp, and with Bungie’s plans (or lack thereof) for it, you should consider not buying the expansion. Other than a few cursory changes to the crucible director, I’m not seeing ANYTHING to indicate that Bungie is even pretending to care about crucible. — Connections and matchmaking have gotten even worse since playlists went from sbmm to cbmm. I’m on the east coast of the US, with solid internet (and play totally wired) and I’m literally playing guys in France and Britain. With no region lock, CBMM IS MEANINGLESS. — P2P. It’s garbage and everyone knows it. Bungie can talk until they’re blue in the face about their glorious hybrid p2p model. Bottom line, if it was actually good, every other shooter would use that, instead of dedicated servers. But, literally every other shooter uses dedicated servers. — Trials. I mean, just look at it. They should be embarrassed. Nearly a year later, and still no anti cheat. Terrible rewards and bounty structure. Almost no incentive for anyone but the very sweatiest players to even attempt trials. Adept weapons on the horizon, sure, but again, this only benefits the very top players (and that’s disregarding the fact that Trials should have launched with adept weapons). — Weapon balance is a joke. I know, I know — destiny will never be balanced and isn’t an esport. But even for this game, the current balance is bad. The state of special weapons (especially snipers and grenade launchers) is ridiculous, and practically no sandbox adjustments have been made since the 600 auto rifle buff. 600 autos are going on almost a year with the same TTK that got Luna’s and NF nerfed? It all gives me the impression that when it comes to PvP, they’re not trying. At all. — Comp has zero unique rewards for hitting max rank. Zero. It’s honestly hard to believe. Not even a unique shader. — Are we getting new PvP maps? Bungie’s silence on this indicates that we probably aren’t. A major expansion with no new PvP maps? Wow. They [i][b]really[/b][/i] don’t care anymore. And no, old maps from D1 don’t count as new. This is just what I can think of off the top of my head. Feel free to add to this list. I’d love to have a reason to buy the expansion. But I mainly play crucible, and from what they’ve revealed about their plans for it, as a crucible player I have very little reason to give them $50 for a new DLC. They say “we’re listening,” but at the end of the day, money is the only thing Bungie understands. And I hope all crucible players will consider this before dropping $50 on a DLC that, at least so far, looks like it does next to nothing to improve the PvP experience in D2. EDIT: Believe it or not, I am aware that there are other PvP games out there! I’ve played almost all of them; at the end of the day, I like this one, and I want it to be as good as it can be.

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  • This sandbox change is pathetic. Seems to follow the general ideology of equalizing TTK between all primary weapon types, which is -blam!-ing dumb. Bungie seems rather clueless regarding the link between forgiveness/ease of use and TTK. Literally no reason whatsoever to use anything other than a 600rpm AR even after the nerf. Still will have a 0.80s optimal TTK, their competitor in 150 HCs have been nerfed to 1.00s, ARs are far more forgiving by nature of the spray, their range, and the ridiculous 50 round magazines. Might see more pulse usage or Jade Rabbit now, but frankly Bungie's map selection favours mid-range engagements heavily, which ARs will dominate. To top it off, nothing was done to address SMGs largely (new Rasputin model can hang decently on PC from what I hear, though not nearly so well on console) being trash (ARs are just better at everything), or fusions outside of high impact frames being basically worthless, or the broken nonsense of Bastion or Arbalest (these last 2 are console specific problems due to the nature of movement limitations, field of view limitations, and console increased aim assist) As if tuning the body shot damage on 600rpm ARs means a damn thing on console where the game gifts you crits for anything landing on the upper torso. All in all, PvP this coming season is shaping up to be nothing but a dumpster fire on console.

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