I play Battlefield 4 and now 1 SOLELY for their 64 player pvp. Its epic and fun. Countless little mini battles on the map happening at all times. Ya sure it lags sometimes. But hey, its quite the difference between what ya can do with P2P vs DEDICATED SERVERS. I think they are too money hungry to put customer satisfaction behind profits. Theyre an entertainment company for gamers, suits have no place in that world. Ive heard of 0 requests for 4v4. I wouldnt mind having the option to play the 4 on 4 but not all the time. Thats all I needed was less reasons to play their pvp.