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Edited by kuyou:
4/21/2017 12:57:34 PM
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Remove Three of Coins in Destiny 2
Sound off in the comments, as I would like to see what the community thinks about this.
For me, ToC has ruined any excitement I used to get out of getting an Exotic drop. After TTK, Exotics stopped feeling rare and elusive and they now just feel like glorified legendaries. I understand that ToC was made to counter frustrating RNG, and I'm not defending the loot system in year 1. But if you think about it, Exotics aren't really hard to get even if you take ToC out of the game.
Let's think here.
You can get Exotics from Nightfalls, Raid encounters/chests, the Trials Lighthouse chest, Legendary engrams, Xur, and Exotic quests. I probably forgot some but you get my point.
Edit: I didn't get a chance to finish the post since I had to go to class, so I'll finish this.
If we did not have ToC, then Exotics would feel more Exotic, but they also wouldn't be unreasonably elusive.
Edit 2: I'm not saying we should go back to the loot system in year 1, I'm saying we should get rid of ToC.
Edit 3: nigel_the_mole actually proposed a pretty good idea. He said this:
[spoiler]Well, there are two kinds of exotics:
1. Those that only come from 1 source (eq, a quest line, or raid drop), and,
2. Exotics that can drop from many sources (e.g., chests, RNG, 3ofC, Xur, etc).
I'll agree that 3ofC had devalued the second pool. There were very few, if any, I got originally from 3ofC. (Had all the Exotics prior to 3ofC release, and can only specifically recall 1 of the newer ones from 3ofC. Possibly a few more, but not many.)
3ofCs basically was first a road to max light, then a shard factory, then a "why even bother."
But group 1 I actively pursued.
I'd say, for D2, I'd like to see the first group be much bigger.
More quest Exotics. More "achievement" Exotics.
Fewer in the second group.
I realize this makes for essentially two classes of exotics (the "hard" ones vs the "easy" ones), but this division already exists. But it allows casual players to get some without having to do specific efforts, and the better stuff to be a bit more effort to achieve.
TL;DR - more exotics from quests or specific points in raids.[/spoiler]
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[quote]Sound off in the comments, as I would like to see what the community thinks about this. For me, ToC has ruined any excitement I used to get out of getting an Exotic drop. After TTK, Exotics stopped feeling rare and elusive and they now just feel like glorified legendaries. I understand that ToC was made to counter frustrating RNG, and I'm not defending the loot system in year 1. But if you think about it, Exotics aren't really hard to get even if you take ToC out of the game. Let's think here. You can get Exotics from Nightfalls, Raid encounters/chests, the Trials Lighthouse chest, Legendary engrams, Xur, and Exotic quests. I probably forgot some but you get my point. Edit: I didn't get a chance to finish the post since I had to go to class, so I'll finish this. If we did not have ToC, then Exotics would feel more Exotic, but they also wouldn't be unreasonably elusive. Edit 2: I'm not saying we should go back to the loot system in year 1, I'm saying we should get rid of ToC. Edit 3: nigel_the_mole actually proposed a pretty good idea. He said this: [spoiler]Well, there are two kinds of exotics: 1. Those that only come from 1 source (eq, a quest line, or raid drop), and, 2. Exotics that can drop from many sources (e.g., chests, RNG, 3ofC, Xur, etc). I'll agree that 3ofC had devalued the second pool. There were very few, if any, I got originally from 3ofC. (Had all the Exotics prior to 3ofC release, and can only specifically recall 1 of the newer ones from 3ofC. Possibly a few more, but not many.) 3ofCs basically was first a road to max light, then a shard factory, then a "why even bother." But group 1 I actively pursued. I'd say, for D2, I'd like to see the first group be much bigger. More quest Exotics. More "achievement" Exotics. Fewer in the second group. I realize this makes for essentially two classes of exotics (the "hard" ones vs the "easy" ones), but this division already exists. But it allows casual players to get some without having to do specific efforts, and the better stuff to be a bit more effort to achieve. TL;DR - more exotics from quests or specific points in raids.[/spoiler][/quote] -blam!- no. I played for 7 hours today. Did my 3 Herioic Strikes, about 3 hours of Crucible, did the whole Curse of Osiris Campaign, and a few public events on Mecury and Nessus. And GOT 1 EXOTIC. I missed 3 of coins. Fireteam Mediallions -blam!-ing suck
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3 of coins better be gone. They completely ruined the excitement of getting an exotic. IMO Xur also needs to go away. Exotic drops need to go back into PVP and strikes. I remember in Y1 getting my first Ghorn after a crucible match. That excitement is gone. Destiny 2 needs to bring it back. I feel that they're completely removing the grind from Destiny 2 and that's a HUGE mistake.
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4 RepliesYr 1 ... Jacked check points, ran Nightfalls, Crucible, Iron Banner... Doing all that got me 4 Plan C and 5 TLW. Not exciting in anyway or rewarding. Introducing 3 o coins allowed me to build my collection proper. By grinding content when I choose. Not waiting another week for a chance at another repeat drop. 3 o coins are fine. Only snowflakes feel otherwise.
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173 RepliesThanks for the suggestions. There has been a long-standing debate on ToC since they were added. We will continue to monitor feedback from everyone on this issue and consider it in the future.
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6 Replies3oC are fine. Whiny bitches should leave. They changed the light level system and something needed to be added. Enough people quit over ttk. 3oC actually kept people playing the game. Nerfs destroyed exotics, along with adding few new ones. They don't feel special because they aren't.
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1 ReplyWhile ToC is good for solo players, it takes the meaning of exotic away. There are lots of legendaries harder to get now than most exotics in the game. I like nigel_the_mole's suggestion as well, OP. I've also seen the downvote brigade invading many replies... [spoiler]GET DOWN! THE BRIGADE IS COMING![/spoiler]
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2 RepliesAll exotics should be obtainable through quests. They should not be RNG. We dont need another epidemic of special snowflakes claiming they "earned" theirs through a random drop. Its not "exotic" if it can randomly appear in any activity.
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6 Replieslets get rid of legendary marks aswell. i don't want them anymore. they ruin the excitement of random purple engrams and the thrill of getting cool legendary gear. lets only keep rng loot. oooorrr if the people who hate 3oC just don't use them. maybe that will make everybody happy... i don't think 3oC are the excitement killer here. your farming exotic engrams killed the excitement and the fact that that you already have all the exotic gear. am i getting excited over the fifth last word drop? nop, of course not... but the first time i was although it came from an engram that dropped after i used some 3oC and i got that drop in time to use the weapon, before i had the time to get excited over another exotic that came out with the next expansion. having to hope for rng on a slim weekly chance of getting what i want is frustrating and annoying. even more frustrating is finally getting the drop and not having the time anymore using that piece of gear because there is the next big thing to replace it... aaand don't get me started on weapons i already had in year one and in year 3 i have to hope and having to do another 50 nightfall strikes to get the gun again (hello icebreaker) i would love to have the chance of getting the gear i want early on so i can enjoy using it for as long as possible...
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It's still RNG based anyways. You're not guaranteed. I've used so many ToCs when doing strikes. Literally every 20 strikes I do, I'll get an exotic. I'll use them on raid bosses and maybe get one if I'm lucky after running three or four raids.
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1 ReplySo you're complaining because it's easier to get Exotics? Uhhhh wut?
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1 ReplyI see why people don't like them, but for people that usually play solo like myself, it's hard to do too many activities that award exotics, i.e raids, quests, nightfall, etc. ToC is a way for me to obtain exotics that doesn't require me to do long and/or difficult activities that would require a fire team. You can bring up the argument of "why play solo," but the sole reason I find myself playing solo is because my internet isn't the best, and lag definitely takes a toll on my ability to take part in the aforementioned activities, and although not every player that plays solo has the same reasons for playing solo as I do, it's all the same. I understand the things like exotics not feeling exotic anymore or becoming too easily accessible to some, but for players in my situation, I wouldn't want to see ToC not come to D2. Not only that, but Xûr only sells them on weekends, so it's not like they're obtainable in excessive amounts, at least not for players that don't have a large sum of strange coins or time to log on during the weekends.
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Don't like em? Don't use em! I don't see why you feel the need to dictate how everyone else plays the game
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Edited by Negan: 4/25/2017 10:59:45 PMWhat's the problem? If you dont like them dont use them simple as that
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13 RepliesWTF ? why ? its not like you're being forced to pop the damn things. it's your own selfcontrol that needs to be fixed, not 3oC
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1 ReplyYou realize that three of coins are one of the ONLY ways of getting exotics right? Its almost impossible to get exotics without them. Ive been glad theyve been in destiny. I honestly have to disagree with this
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1 Replyyeah but if you remove it everyone will forget they ever existed and start saying exotics are too hard to get, i didnt play in year1 but from what i hear it was much more exciting when you received and exotic or completed and exotix bounty, i think in d2, exotics should be more powerful, rarer and harder to obtain, and even maybe function differently in pve and pvp separately
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2 RepliesI say get rid of them. Leave exotic drops for endgame. It shouldn't be easy to get every single exotic in the game, from casually running strikes and doing quests, but almost impossible to get a rifled luna
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I know a solid way to get exotics from the cryptarch All you have to do is get a legendary from a rare and then click on a legendary engram. Instant 400 light exotic. Did not find this out. But it does work
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I feel the same. I've been telling this to my friends since they put 3oC in the game when TTK came out. It really does make exotics pretty NOT EXCITING when you get them. Me personally, i enjoy the grinding and earning everything. Too many people complained saying "good gear" and "good weapons" are too hard to get and now obtaining a lot of these items is too easy. That's my little rant.
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At least make it so you can't farm exotic engrams, vendor packages, etc. On the brink of a new expansion. Let everyone start at zero.
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After rise of iron went live, with engrams dropping often, I feel the loot system is pretty good. Remove ToC. Before that it's the only thing I bough from cut, hundeds...all my coins every week. Now with the blues from strike bosses, the strike chests........ Remove them and make more common exotics feel, exotic.....a little.. I check perk rolls of every legendary....exotics are boring after you have them. Although, they might be more fun than buying shards from xur because we always run out. I see why there would be such debate. But we will always remember our 'sacrifice' and can be proud that we earned ours when someone asks something like "dark drinker, huh? Where do you get that?"
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Bump.
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Three of coins made getting exotic rewards from nightfalls and raids unexciting. Before 3oC, I had 3 chances a week for a new exotic since I didn't have the friends to play raids. Only 3 to get the elusive gjallarhorn. Now I have a chance every strike. Exotics felt rewarding and the nightfall felt worth the effort. The thorn quest killed me, bad juju and SGA felt worth the effort. I had to really work for exotics. Now, oh solar burn is on, let me use my preorder gjallarhorn and 3oC to get more exotic shards to do absolutely nothing with
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Edited by Stormhawk118: 4/22/2017 3:02:34 AMI dont know what to think about them, things were fine before they existed, they're a nice concept now, but God damn did they produce a lot of shiny people who seem to think that they're entitled to a guaranteed exotic for every 3oC they use Whenever someone complains about their drop rates, all I can think of is how they should be nothing but grateful, they offer an opportunity for extremely easy exotic farming via taken major events that happen frequently
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Removing 3 of Coins to make Exotics feel special makes no sense. Exotics will not feel "exotic" due to nerfs mind you. 3 of Coins isn't a problem, it was a solution for the lack of activities that rewarded exotics. It also resolved the age old issue of LFG requirements from elitists of "must have insert exotic name here". You make it sound like 3 of Coins us an automatic guarantee exotic drop everytime it's consumed. It's not even an issue or priority to be address. Unless you're a special kind of snowflake that demands to be differentiated from your peers because you need that self gratification of acknowledgement. Other things need to be fixed moving forward. Fix RNG probability of exotic duplicates. Fix PvP encounters that benefit lagging players. Fix AFK warriors that do nothing in PvE. Fix the story line in Destiny. Fix the godawful mist effect in game. Fix vault space. Fix PvP matchmaking. Fix repetitive Strikes. Fix all Bungie server latency. Fix nerfs. The list goes on...
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I say get rid of them. Leave exotic drops for endgame. It shouldn't be easy to get every single exotic in the game, from casually running strikes and doing quests, but almost impossible to get a rifled luna
