Only bad players ask for nerfs and cry OP.

Every day I keep getting on here to hopefully see something from bungie that says they have removed bloom from handcannons but have increased damage fall off. Haven't given up hope yet

I'm not sure how people still think shot guns are a problem. Would be nice to see a fusion rifle buff and my longbow able to shut down supers again and I think all specials will be in a good spot. I personally just wanted a balance update to change up the primary game.

In fairness cant smash shotguns anymore ... reduction in movement speed was poor form. Bring back hopscotch (original) archetype maybe but we all are sheep. Handcannons seem okay in right hands and bullet hoses fine line between op and useless. Easiest guns have always been pulse rifles (red death 2 shotted yr1) and very forgiving. No real suggestion but would like to see more autos and sidearms but can imagine would shift meta for joe average like myself.

I just think it's bs that a matador can one shot me mid FoH+unstoppable -_-

To be fair, crucible is the most balanced its ever been. There's a lot of good options across numerous weapon archetypes. Sure a few could do with a bit of love like the high impact autos and pulses. I'm just worried you wont see a patch for quite a number of months. From what I understand is that Bungie have to fork out cash to Sony and Microsoft to do patches, and seeing as they have just pushed out a patch for The Dawning, I can't see them doing another anytime soon. (Even though they surely made enough money off Eververse sales)

BC shot gun are god weapons

For bungie Very simple fix Guns that shoot very fast Should not kill as quickly as guns that don't shoot as fast This emphasizes precision ovee guns that are more forgiving in that you can miss shots

Because it's the most balanced it's ever been, and they don't wanna mess anything up trying to fix 3 or 4 things that are barely out of balance.

Because nothing needs to be done. Simple. Go ahead & argue all you want.........but pvp is in the best place it's been since Destiny premiered. I already know most of the arguments, so before I read a word of the input here's a couple tid bits. Shotguns. Already been nerfed 4 or maybe even 5 times. They're fine. Learn to use or not, your choice. Clever Dragon. Is not OP and there are plenty of counters..........I counter them all of the time and don't even use Clever Dragon myself. "People flocking to leave the game/Destiny is dead." - The game set sales records along the way and has a massive player base. Destiny has been and will continue to be ground breaking & get even better in the future. The bitch fest folks here represent a minute percentage of the Destiny players.....if ALL of you left forever the game would still thrive. Sub-classes. Fine where they're at. We've all had to endure nerfs. Deal with it. Pve vs. pvp. Deal with it. You can complete pve any number of ways just pick your favorite load-out and go for it. Pvp requires much more attention and is more challenging because it isn't mechanized & folks on the other end are learning machines that adapt, improve, and add the element of surprise. Each match is different based upon the opponent. That about cover the top few complaints? Thought so. Have fun in here, I'm gone. EDIT: As they say, this has been real and this has been fun but not real fun...........I truly have something making serious demands of my immediate attention. Later fellas..... Reply

This may be an unpopular opinion but i want the old HoW meta back. Even though thorn and last word where op things like the red death, hopscotch, aegis of the reef, and mida where also good enough that you can keep up with thorn and lastword. Also because thorn and all the other primarys where so good a play style like mindlessly rushing with jug wasnt as good because primaries could burn through the shield and kill you faster.

What do you think needs to be balanced? I seem to get killed by everything evenly, not once have I thought something was overpowered or underpowered... maybe overused by the masses, but nothing over powered or underpowered.

Is this a joke? You know anyone can take out a shotgun or whatever other weapon for that matter whenever they want right? I rarely use them but don't complain when i run up on someone who out classed me. Bunch of cry babies. A major part of anything in live is getting good at it. You can't always just cry till something is perfectly specified to your liking. Practice makes perfect.

Because no matter what is done people will bitch, and no matter what people like you will never be satisfied. Because balancing a game like Destiny is next to impossible and Bungie knew that going in. See Bungie Podcast.