I play with a buddy of mine whose a 1.0 k/d now 1700 elo and while his k/d isnt great we've played together long enough that he effectively boosts my k/d. He team shoots with me, cleans up my misses, his kda is usually about a 1.5. We recently have been trying to carry players and the ones we like to carry are .8-1.0 k/d because from our experience it goes like this .0-.7: Player simply lacks gun skill and knowledge of the game mode usually because of simple things like, lack of good armor (no tier 5 anything, extra fusion boots, sidearm reload gauntlets etc. These things put you at a major disadvantage in trials) .8-1.0 k/d: These players tend to understand the game mode, know call outs, and go for revives often to help the team. They would rather die going for a revive then trying to MLG sportscenter TOP 10 clutch. They also have friends that are usually in the above category and drag them down too. These players actually tend to be the easiest players to go flawless with as weird as that is. 1.0-1.5k/d: This is the wildcard area they are either great team players, mature, make flawless runs a piece of cake......or they've farmed k/d by playing 3 matches and resetting. You can always tell because they completely fall apart on wins 7-9 and become a carry. Not surprised that this is becoming more of a thing considering the elitist requirements on LFG. Another negative option is they have a high k/d because they refuse to push and guard orbs and would rather try and 1v3 clutch snipe. Had a guy once with a 1.4 k/d tell us every time we got an orb down to run to him because he'd get pushed trying to "yolo snipe" on the flank. Good teams recognize this and will push the "solo artist". Against lower quality teams yolo sniping results in farmed kills and ez k/d boosts but we all see right through that by the end of the card. 1.5k/d+: Still kind of a wildcard if the elo is low it could be a farmer. If the elo is high the player could have a god tier friend he plays with who boosts his stats. Or again the solo player who thinks he is top 10 god but only succeeds with that strat in games 1-5. As you can see the .8-1.0 k/d is basically the area of what you see is what you get. Not really any surprises there which is why thats kind of what I look for when my buddy and I decide to do a carry. We don''t do it for money, we don't stream we just enjoy playing and improving. My k/d in Y1 I think was around a 1.1 in trials, a 1.5 in Y2, and I'm currently rocking a 1.87 for Y3. It takes a long time to improve in this game but its possible to achieve.

I'm your classic 1.0 character but I honestly haven't found a solid team to try trials with. I imagine communication is key to all of it. I can win the one on ones. It's just that while attempting trials with randoms, I have been left in a lot of 1v3 situations where I get stomped on.

What is ELO?

I quit this game few months after the TTK but came back after ROI dropped, as I remember trials was the easiest thing ever, hell, I did paid carries for so long (mostly recoveries), right now I am standing as the world's highest trials kd 6.59. 144 games played and 144 games won. I used to have 4.5kd overall in crucible. Now that I had to remake all my characters (deleted them after I quit, swore to never return to this game) I am only sitting at 3.0kd naturally while playing solo 3.0 is alright I guess. Now I am afraid to touch trials ever again because I dont want to ruin my perfect record, goddammit I wish I had never foubd a website that tracks stats destinytracker.com I have been called a cheater and hacker so many times because some people cant recognize pure skill. Well always looking for people to play with since my friendlist is empty right now. Feel free to add me, especially if you are good at this game. Gt below. Weazeled [spoiler]pointless post is pointless[/spoiler]

I hate to say it but, I feel like trying get to do Trials with my friends has killed my chances. I want to take it more seriously, but they're not into it. Now, after doing Trials with them for the past 1.5 years, my stats are so bad that nobody outside of my friends will bother trying to help. I want to improve but going 3v1 on 3 out of 5 rounds doesn't help. Especially when you seem to be facing teams that are well coordinated and have been to the Lighthouse every week since HoW - on the first match. (To be fair, me and my friends' average age is 40+. Most of them prefer PvE and chill and only do Crucible for weekly bounties and IB. But I figure that if one of us can commit to getting better and show that it's paying off in wins, then maybe I can pass along the enthusiasm and some lessons.)

I'm around 1440 in the gold tier. Typically every game has at least one platinum on either team and it's satisfying to play rangers up there.

My trials kd used to be a 1.1, haved raised it to 1.47 Kd means nothing

There are soooo many kids on LFG posting stat requirements that they don't meet themselves. I enjoy inviting them to my team, calling them out and sending them on their way. [spoiler]2k elo life[/spoiler]

The necessities of going flawless: You must be able to think, in the purpose of out playing someone. Most people have gotten to where they a expect a mindless shotty ape to rush at them and easily pick them off. You need to bait people (even your teammates sometimes) to get the picks that you'll need to win rounds. Another thing you'll need, is some solid call outs. Even if you have absolutely no idea what the callouts are just try to help your teammates by giving them the direction of the enemy. Cause chances are is they've regrouped and are getting ready to push. A 3rd thing to know, says you're playing on burning shrine, your team is in the center and you see two people outside. You can't see that there are three people outside, what should you do? You need to push somebody who is attempting to solo push. Honestly their the easiest people in the world to get down. 4th note, once you get an enemy down stay on their revive. Or at least in the relative area of it. So if somebody decides they want their teammate back you can deny them and have 2 kills or even 3 to win the round. Final note, keep your cool in all situations. Don't go around throwing a nova bomb getting no kills and not expect your team to be upset. Your super is round changing. And depending on how well your teams supers are used is usually how the game ends up going. Do not use all of your supers in one round. Even if it's 4-0. I've seen teams be up 4-0 and use all supers, my team win that round and win the next 4 also because we had supers. Any super in the game is either a shutdown super or a roaming super. All roaming supers should get killed by shut down supers. Only use a super if it is to secure a major pick in a round. People ask me how I know if the enemy has their super. Look at the level 40 box when you see them in game. If it is flashing yellow, then they are super charged. Knowing who is super charged and who isn't is a big part in the game. That concludes what I think it takes to be successful in trials. I am currently a 2425 elo with 2.3 kd. Not that my stats matter, I just want you all to know I've been in the game and I know how it works. [spoiler]Sorry about the long post, it can't really be summarized or I'd put one out. Thank you for taking the time to read.[/spoiler]

Idk how but my elo is around 2000 with a 1.45 kd and id say im prettt good, but somehow theres always that guy to tell me my kd is bad and that i shouldnt have that elo.... Like wtf????

Without looking into SBMM detials... My toon kds are .4, .7 and .98 (lets assume it to be 1) When i join a pvp match with my 1 kd toon i get sweaty matches and i get better. .7 toon normally ends up in matches where i win most of the time due to being matched agains scrubs. I have played against .1 kd ppl. .4 toon going in matches where it's a pub stomp for me and i am matched against lowest scum scrubs Given that me in reality is a .9 kd player it doesn't matter what toon i play with as it doesn't affect my skills. It does change the way we are matched.... For example, someone asked me to come to trials with a specific toon which had lowest stats... I didn't bother as i don't pkay trials yet. Why are my toons so diverse? .4 is first toon of y1 when i was a scrub .7 2nd toon when i got less scrubby .9 latest toon when i learned who to kill others ;) So something is there and it can be used/abused. I won't be suprised if people are not abusing this yet...

Firstly: your overall kd isn't a reflection on how good you are. Because of SBMM, a top 1% player can have a 1.0 kd where as someone who only had a few hours played in pvp can have a 2.0 because he will only be matched up against potatoes. The amount of people who have a 1kd but get destroyed in trials and people who have similar kds who have no issue going flawless is a good indicator of this. Also, you can easily farms a high overall KDin normal playlists. Go into rift or another objective based game mode, don't play the objective and just farm people. Like so: http://imgur.com/402DiPL http://imgur.com/cMgQCkl my team LOST this game. If you want to know if someone is good at trials the only real reflection is of their trials stats. Such as Elo and trials kd. Because of SBMM In all normal playlists I have a 1.1kd with a 50%ish win rate. Yet in trials I have a 1.81 kd with an 80% win rate and 1650+ Elo (hope to break 1700 next weekend) because the playlist doesn't use SBMM even though it attracts a 'sweatier' audience. https://destinytrialsreport.com/xbox/Raider1987

I love the ones where they say they have a 1.8 kd must be the same or better, but you open up their stats, their year one and two kd is negative, and the only character that is 1.8 is a guy they have 1d played on and the rest are 1.0. I'll take a player with more than 3 matches please lol

1. You've been flawless once not several times 2. You're not good or pretty good 3. You suck