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Edited by Dang lmao: 7/14/2015 4:52:43 PM
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HOPSCOTCH PILGRIM PSA:

So I keep seeing a lot of people on the forums saying that Headseeker, Reactive Reload, or Glass Half Full are the go-to perks. This is not true ! Using DMG modifier perks on a PR like Hopscotch are a wasted perk. The give a little wiggle room for kills, but nothing very noticeable. Never able to one shot even with Reactive Reload. Headseeker becomes damn near pointless because of the stability on the gun. Even if you're not using any Stability modifier perks. Now Glass Half Full is even more pointless than both of those. Even a smaller amount of wiggle room offered with that perk. Your best bet is to go for something along the lines of what I have on my Warlock. You could trade out scopes or run Outlaw instead of Feeding Frenzy. Either will work great. The main thing you want is a great Stability modifier, could go with Smallbore as well, and Hidden Hand. The aim assist Hidden Hand offers is unreal on this gun. It magnetizes the bullets to the enemy so well. Now I know everyone has their personal preferences, and I'll say that right out of the box with no perks unlocked at all, this gun is nuts. On a side note, DMG modifier perks like I noted above, mainly work best with high RoF/low impact PR's to help compensate for the low impact. By all means, use those perks on those PR archetypes. Just my advice ! Do as you please, but I think you'll see a lot better performance in the gun when you roll perks similar to mine. And this is coming from someone using Messenger a shit ton and thinking Headseeker was a great perk for that pulse rifle archetype myself. But Hidden Hand pulled me away from that REALLY quick. Edit: I forgot to mention that those DMG modifier perks do work substantially well in PVE. So the perks aren't completely pointless overall. Just depends on what you're using it for. But I would take a elemental primary over that for PVE, regardless of the perks. But if you have nothing else, it'll still work great. :)
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  • I think you are giving hidden hand a bit too much credit. There is a very good video where they test HH to see what it does. I think it was planetdestiny that made it. It didn't make the rounds hit the head or body any better. (They show the same gun with HH and without shooting right beside a guys head and HH didn't get more head shots). What HH seemed to do was make the aim a bit more sticky when you were pointing at the person. This is still helpful to stay on target but you still have to aim for those head shots.

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    • I have a Hopscotch with FLA5, 3rd Eye, Small Bore, and Hidden Hand... IT'S A LONG RANGE HEADSHOT MACHINE. It has taken the place of my Three Little Words with Full Auto, Fitted Stock, and Glass Half Full.

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      • Probably one of the best posts I've read in a while. All the suggestions everyone recommend are solid. This is how reforging was intended IMO.

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        • I just use preadyhs timepiece. Beast roll right out of the box

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          • If you have a messenger adept ignore this post

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            • I still think reactive reload is the best. Your logic is definitely sound though. But that wiggle room RR gives is great for the times you come up against multiple guys and the extra damage will finish them off.

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              • I was thinking of going hidden hand over headseeker also... I do not notice headseeker as much as I thought... But it actually has got me the two shot kill on a moving target more than once. I use the red dot oas, not sure how much that adds to aim assist... the aim assist already seems high, but I am considering re-rolling for third eye and aim assist... Right now I have an exact messenger clone, I am afraid of re-rolling it and not being able to get anything close to it.

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              • Wait, so your opinion of a perfect PvP roll, say for ToO; would be what?

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              • I two burst people in the crucible occasionally with it and I have terrible perks on it. It is amazing!

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              • Before I grind vanguard dragon, is it better than messenger without a doubt? Because I have all 3 burns and love messenger...so in what ways if any does hopscotch out perform

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                • I got a pilgrim the first week how launched. Saw the stats, said it's exactly like the 3x 3little words that I had... And was so short on vault space that I scrapped it. What a mistake. Been running a bunch of dragons trying to get another.

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                • I got one on my Warlock with some pretty decent perks. Third Eye, Braced Frame and Hidden Hand.

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                • I can see where you are coming from on this.. I have 2 of them, one with RR and one with glass half full and max stability.. You don't use RR very much, but when you have 3 people trying to cap C on shores of time, that bonus damage is just brutal! Plus no sniper lens flare to make you a target! It's just a super solid gun across the board.

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                • Good advice! Thanks for the heads up. The grind continues

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                • I already have one ascended. My boyfriend is going to be running Dragon Strikes to get one and I'm joining him in the hope I can get another one with different perks. I'd really like 3rd eyes and hidden hand,I have Headseeker in the last perk spot of the skill tree on my current one.

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                  • For me, feeding frenzy, braced frame and reactive reload are the best possible rolls for this gun. Followed closely by feeding frenzy, braced frame and headseeker. The reason I say this is because it makes the weapon most versatile imo. It's great for pvp (normal and IB) AND it it's great in pve where the damage modifiers help out even more. When I play, I like to be as familiar, comfortable and accustomed to the gun I'm using as possible. That way I know how it's going to handle from the first shot to the last in the session I'm in. So when I go into the crucible, I like to use the same weapon that I use in pve. With these perks, I don't feel the need to have a pvp model vs a pve one. That's just me though. To each their own

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                  • Third eye hidden hand will be the roll most people should have but outlaw reactive is devastating in that control you usually get groups of two to three together. Kill reload in a second and take out two to three more sometimes with body work . It gets ugly. Smallbore on this gun is underrated as well.

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                    • With hand-laid stock and a variety of sights your stability is maxed. Your other perks can be rolled to whatever you prefer. I wanted headseeker and am happy with it. Dont really like my other perk(graverobber) but rolled HS and Hand-laid and wasnt pressing my luck any further. My first roll had hidden hand. I changed because I dont feel like i need any other assistance once the stability is maxed. All in all its a great weapon, made even better by its ability to be rolled. Now that people have found out about it, I wonder what percentage Dragon strikes have increased? :)

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                      • Edited by DrBaloo: 7/14/2015 6:31:17 PM
                        I just got one from PoE with Feeding Frenzy, Hand-laid Stock and Hidden Hand. Worth keeping?

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                        • Which archetype is it? High ROF low impact or low ROF high impact?

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                          • Edited by gcw0068: 7/14/2015 6:32:22 PM
                            On the low impact archetype- getting "reactive reload" Woth perfect balance or its equivalents is a beast. Lets Coiled Hiss 2 burst.

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                            • Mine has counter balance, Spray and Play, and Speed Reload. It's honestly an average gun for me.

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                              • I got my hopscotch pilgrim on m first attempt at vanguard dragon because I almost never do strikes and I can't put this gun down in PvP

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                                • I dismantled the one I got because I already had solar, void and arc messengers. Did I make a mistake? Is it really that good?

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                                  • I've been grinding dragons to get one lol

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                                    • Mine's got headseeker, smallbore and third eye. I want to keep doing strikes to get another one.

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