I feel your pain, I helped my sister on her first VoG run on hard and she got vex FIRST time. Granted I didn't run VoG hard too often (didn't hit 30 til late, shit was TOUGH) but still. When she got it this was how the convo went down: Me- you've got to be -blam!-in kidding me Her-what? Me-you got the -blam!-in one gun I need Her-well maybe it's because it's my first time finishing VoG on hard. Me- no Marci, no...............not how that works