[quote]I'm afraid that's what it's gonna come down to, everyone that is making a group will only take those with ice breakers and gallys.[/quote] OMG I can't believe I won't be able to do the hard raid :( or be accepted into any fireteam :( I think bungie should not allow you to join the hard raid unless you have the ghorn. The ghorn makes that average player superior and elite. I'm so gutted I won't be accepted. Suppose il just stop playing since won't be accepted. I hope you enjoy hard mode :(