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Modifié par dazarobbo :
2/10/2013 4:35:36 AM
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California to Sign Gun Confiscation Bill
[url=http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/08/gun-confiscation-bill-introduced-in-california-we-can-save-lives/]source[/url]
[quote]The 10-bill package constitutes the single largest gun control push in decades in the Golden State, which already boasts some of the nation’s strictest gun laws. It joins equally controversial proposals from Assembly Democrats that would regulate and tax ammunition sales and consider taking the state’s 166,000 registered Assault weapons from their owners.
This first unified California plan comes less than a month after New York adopted its own sweeping package of new gun controls and President Barack Obama announced a package of executive actions, all in the wake of December’s Connecticut schoolhouse Massacre. Even as this plan emerged Thursday, House Democrats’ gun violence Task Force was announcing 15 “policy principles,” including protecting Second Amendment rights but also instituting universal background checks and reinstating a federal Assault weapons ban.[/quote]
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15 commentairesMolon Labe They can come try to take mine, not sure how well that will work for them.
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1 commentaireCalifornia is the poster state for liberal stupidity. I don't even consider them part of the union, so they can do whatever they want.
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Yeah, those liberals are sure all about the people and giving us what we want, not telling us what to do. That's why they would have no problem confiscating "assault" weapons by force from perfectly innocent owners who wish to own them.
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Have fun trying to confiscate 166,000 assault weapons from very pissed off owners! I'm going to grab my popcorn and watch this unfold.
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2 commentairesNot surprised. This is California we are talking about...probably the most backward state there is.
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Everyone needs to watch this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZo4hbGJjVI&feature=youtu.be
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36 commentaires"shall not be infringed"
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7 commentairesAccording to Article I, Section 9 of the U.S. Constitution, shouldn't the illegalization and confiscation of any type of firearm be ex post facto and therefore against the Constitution? I mean they're basically saying, "You know those things you used to have? Yeah, now it's illegal to own them even though you used to be able to so we're just going to take them away."
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Yeah that is not legal
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Pretty much what California is saying "We don't want to take away peoples guns, just yours" -blam!- them.
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3 commentairesModifié par M37h3w3 : 2/10/2013 3:15:51 AMI'm saddend by this news. Not only because do we need reform on the gun control laws but because this shit isn't helping. It's targeting the wrong weapons that were and are being used in the majority of crime and it does nothing to close the clear abuses and obvious problems. -Target handguns. The rifle that the shooter at Sandy Hook packed wasn't used against the children. Handguns were. Just like in Virginia Tech. Just like in most of the shootings in Oakland. Just like in... -Buy a gun? Background check. Licensed dealers are required; But not private sellers. Any time a gun is bought and sold a background check needs to happen. -Require that states submit records of dangerous individuals (felons, stalkers, mentally ill) to the background check system. This requirement that did this was thrown out of the Brady Handgun Bill by the Supreme Court after it was challenged by a NRA bankrolled representative. -Allow the ATF to release the tracing data to determine where the criminally used guns are coming from. Then, should those dealers prove to be negligent, run them out of business. Consequently, empower the ATF so they can actually do their job. Want to have a semi-auto with telescoping stock, fore grip, extended magazine, and flash suppressor? Sure. Go right ahead.
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I have family in Cali.... Good luck getting them to hand over their guns. lol
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Modifié par Verachi : 2/10/2013 3:06:55 AMTake the guns from the gangsters/criminals first then you can try to take the guns from law abiding citizens. Stupid -blam!-s.
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3 commentairesAny bill with the phrase "assault weapons" in it should be thrown out immediately and the Congressmen that introduce it should be subject to a motion of no confidence.
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1 commentaireMore stupid knee-jerk reactions. These people are complete idiots; they're targeting weapons based on appearances, and on top of that weapons that weren't even used in the Sandy Hook massacre.
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1 commentairei expect a legislative bitchslap from US-SCOTUS about this once SAF and Calguns hears about this. not only is it illegal, nothing will reduce crime because they don't want to go to war against gangs... the solution to their crime problem is purge the gang members, not give them freed money, food, and housing.
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Yeah, this will accomplish anything other than police getting shot ...
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2 commentairesYes, excellent job California. Let's continue to hurt the law-abiding citizens because its them that are the real threat and problem to everyone else and not the criminals who are going to ignore any gun-control law passed.
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It will be ruled unconstitutional, but I generally support its cause. Perhaps some of the non-gun confiscation clauses should be separated.
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Modifié par Mad Max : 2/9/2013 8:30:05 PMFunny how the source that The Blaze links says nothing about confiscation. [quote]- Require anyone wishing to buy ammunition to first get a permit by passing a background check, as Los Angeles and Sacramento already do. - Update the definition of a banned shotgun with a revolving cylinder to include the new technology of a shotgun-rifle combination. - Prevent unregulated gun loans, with some exceptions, including hunting, in order to keep weapons from those who haven't passed background checks. - Require all handgun owners obtain a safety certificate every year, rather than the every-five-years requirement for purchases of new handguns. - Prohibit anyone barred from owning a weapon from living in a home where weapons are kept and to expand the list of crimes for which convictions result in being barred from gun possession. - Let the state Justice Department use money from the state's Dealer's Record of Sale system to eliminate the backlog of people identified as no longer allowed to own guns but not yet investigated and contacted by law enforcement.[/quote] Seems reasonable to me.
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3 commentairesIs there a link to the bill language? I'd rather not read what The Blaze has to say about it.
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Cold dead hands, Commiefornia. Cold dead hands.
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2 commentairesIt's ridiculous, and it's a prime example of, "Registration always leads to confiscation." People who owned 'Assault Weapons' prior to 2000 had to register them with the state in 2000 when the California Assault weapons ban passed. Now we are looking at these possible bills today which will lead to confiscation of those firearms. Hollowpoint rounds will be banned for civilian use. So I guess it's ok if our rounds over penetrate a target. Hollowpoints reduce over penetration. Hollowpoints are also useful in hunting. Now we won't be able to use FMJ or Hollowpoint ammunition to hunt. Magazines over 10 rounds will be banned and confiscated. I wonder if that goes for pinned 10 round mags too. Bullet Buttons will be banned. BBs are a safety feature built into California AR15s and AK clones which allowed you to remove the magazine if needed. If you get a jam and you can't break the rifle open to clear it, what are you going to do? It's a huge safety issue. License to buy ammunition is bull shit through and through. Forced gun owners liability insurance is bull shit through and through. No more than 500 rounds at a time is bull shit through and through. 7.62x39 spam cans have 500 rounds in them. What if you buy a crate which contains a thousand rounds. What if I want to buy a crate of 7.62x54 which contains 880 round? California wants to reduce crime which is a huge problem here. So they go after people who are already obeying the law. Seriously, leave us who obey the law, the hell alone. We are doing nothing wrong.
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1 commentairei live in Cali, and i really don't feel any sadness about this. If people have guns or don't have guns doesn't affect me all too much. But i personally don't think the problem lies within if the gun is automatic, semi, single round, has a 5 round clip or a 300 round clip. As long as there are guns there will be shooting. Less control on what guns are given out, and more control on WHO they are given out too.
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I wonder how much Dorner has to do with this...
