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4/25/2023 7:01:42 AM
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Go back to your thousand Hamster wheels then
Good luck getting all the parts to the new warframe,hope your ready to live in the new activity , unless you can afford to just pay to win like they want you to
And The New War was there biggest expansion that took years to make, 2 hour quest 😂😂😅😅
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[quote]Go back to your thousand Hamster wheels then Good luck getting all the parts to the new warframe,hope your ready to live in the new activity , unless you can afford to just pay to win like they want you to And The New War was there biggest expansion that took years to make, 2 hour quest 😂😂😅😅[/quote] Warframe isn’t ‘Pay to Win’ it is Pay to Skip Grind. It’s all cosmetic, nothing gives an advantage over another player. Try again.
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do you know what you can do in warframe that you cant do in destiny 2? get 95% of everything for free. i have spent 20usd on warframe and have 1500 hours of fun time, have spent around 300usd for only dlc and seasonpasses and i dont even get everything. and plz dont name hampter wheel while youre running in it. If youre wondering i dont play both anymore because they have had their time, but when i think about it at least i didnt spend 300+ on just getting to play the game. bye gotta run in the hampter wheel
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[quote]do you know what you can do in warframe that you cant do in destiny 2? get 95% of everything for free. i have spent 20usd on warframe and have 1500 hours of fun time, have spent around 300usd for only dlc and seasonpasses and i dont even get everything. and plz dont name hampter wheel while youre running in it. If youre wondering i dont play both anymore because they have had their time, but when i think about it at least i didnt spend 300+ on just getting to play the game. bye gotta run in the hampter wheel[/quote] Warframe drop rates are worse, youd love Destiny if you could trade for the things you dont have. Remove trading from Warframe and you have droprates lower than 5% for alot of things
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95% free yhea But the grind is way worst and the game is 100% pay to win I played war frame was decent at 1st But at a certain point you hit a major wall and you need to grind or pay to get better And the story....I was laughing hard when I unlocked the teno part of the game If you say D2 ad bad grind and story ....war frame is worst but you can pay to win
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You do realised this term is used for PvE only game too right ? Even if I'm aware warframe does have PvP but its hit or miss....mostly miss
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[quote]Nope, pay2win refers to any game that gives unfair and/or exclusive advantage to a paying player over non-paying players, PvE or PvP. Destiny 2 has more of it either way. Warframe is much closer to grind2win since best weapons can only be grinded for. Besides the point that power in Warframe does not come from guns, but from mods, and every single one is farmable while only few very basic ones can be purchased from the market. And you still can't buy knowledge of modding.[/quote] Destiny doesn’t, it has DLC and has been following this model for years even when it cost $60 Warframe has extreme P2W you can purchase everything from a player minus Story Locked stuff and Faction based gear. So yea someone who just bought the game can get to the point a player whos played for years can if they spend $$$
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[quote]Destiny has weapons that are DLC-exclusive, you literally [b]have[/b] to pay money to get them. In Warframe, you can't buy everything from other players. You simply can't. Not tradable and that's it. And the guns that are tradable, are only basic guns, non-modded, with 0 XP on them, which means you can only buy from someone a gun in the exact same condition as if you farmed for it. You have to level up and mod the gun by yourself. To suggest that that's pay2win is asinine and it reveals ignorance coming from not playing the game, and you're brave enough to have a debate with someone who has 3k hours in each game. I do commend your bravery; it's foolish, but still bravery.[/quote] Destiny has always had that, you are comparing apples to oranges because the games are both free and involve space. Destiny 2 is following its business model its had for years selling a bug dlc ever year. Saying thats P2W is like saying a game that sells DLC like Destiny does is P2W. It just become no longer viable to charge $60 or even $20 for the base game anymore. I can guarantee you have no idea what happens when you start a base game of D2 with no DLC. Warframe on the other hand has always been this way it never costed money and became free. Its always had a the P2W aspect where you could purchase anything save for Story locked and Faction weapons. Saying warframe is not pay 2 win because you can farm yourself is useless because the whole point of saying something is P2W is because you have the option to pay money to skip something others wouldn’t. Idiots have been passing it off as something that gives a advantage but its literally in the name “Pay to win”. I dont care how long youve played either games, there are indisputable facts of both games and I genuinely care less what you have to say when the majority of the warframe community say the same about the game. My favorite part of your comment is that your description of the trading process just isn’t how it works. You enter a Clan Dojo or Public Space and trade plat for parts (Blueprints) of a weapon/Warframe. You then can build it yourself then if you want you can go ahead and trade the best mods in the entire game and save yourself the hours or days it takes to get some good drops because of how bad the drop rates can get
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Destiny has more pay to win than warframe?😂😂😂😂 Yea ok you are lying Bye✌
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😂 paying for guns in destiny Buddy you pay for content not actually buy pieces of gear loke warframe I did play warframe and stoped because I was a the point were I needed to either start buying lots of materials or grind for months with the deluxe membership to get decent drop rate Yes you can technically not pay and play warframe.....if you want to spend the entire time you play farming and trying to sell stuff to other player in the a really toxic chat In destiny you buy content which include weapon,armor ,cosmetic ,content ect.... In warframe you buy inventory space,weapon ,new frame,boost,time skip ect.
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2x drop and exp It was a thing when I played if they removed that good but I doubt it Also you being not fully honest Anyone that played it and aren't stuck like you with how much time they spend can see it for themself The game can be good ....but halted by bad grind and just needing to wait for item to craft (which can be skip with money) There is bad and hidden mechanics in which you need the wiki open to have a chance to complete (looking at you pet) I was gonna talk about damage calculations but I think its gotten less complicated then before with damage type,element and enemy armor material being less important than it was before The game stay afloat because of whales ....remove player buying premium currency and those who play for free get stucks ....without pay to win/advance there is no free player
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Modifié par DarkMoonWolf666 : 4/28/2023 12:17:53 PMDestiny grind is way more passive ....and making it harder on purpose just to make a paid alternative isn't a good thing.... Destiny as been making their grind more streamlined lately ...and warframe a game that was out before D1 still has the same way to mindless grind to get a static weapon ...and I'm it even gonna start on weapon mod and card system Whales in D2? Don't think you know what whales are if you think D2 have those ....even if someone were to buy everything on eververse its still way lower than an average whale on a game like warframe (to be clear this isn't a warframe only problem but any MMO with ridiculous cash shop...trove a kid MMO has a terrible whale problems and they manipulate the game economy )
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Yea worry to break it to you but legendary shard are passive and well a terrible way to grind for them And warframe materials are way more rare and there's different ones from every location and enemy type then there's the rare one that pop up via special mission that only stay for 1 hour (could be 2) Warframe has good gameplay don't get me wrong but the grind is way more artificial Also don't remember what those were called but there was these item in which you had a chance to get something depending on m any peoples picked it or something ? Been a while ...but again that was just another weird way to grind that felt was made worst just to pad time and make it so some would just pay for it instead
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Ok you are brainwashed by warframe because you wasted too many hours grinding Don't want to see reality materials aren't rare ....for some but you need a lot ....and yea there's way to increased by getting a boost(premium curency) or farming for a frame.... Also really LS compared to void relic ? Buddy the economy would crash in warframe if the odds were close for these void relic drop Warframe at his core as good gameplay and ideas ....take to long to updates and their updates really live up to their own hype (I remember 2 friends were hype about the space ship update ....they quit 2 week later )game is grindy and criptic (why more than D2) but its not fun and have bad choke point You can play for free if you making this your job(of you think D2 require a lot of your time warframe is way worst )or pay to bypass most of the issues.premium currency can be traded from player to player but it just make the P2W more apparent and give scraps to people that farm for these player so they can buy what they need to pass the next gate Good game ,meh update that are way too rare, bad P2W that make f2p farming machine and terrible power creep Game is fun your 1st month ...then it show its true form ...then you grind you get some stuff its fun again ...then you need to grind to get anything else and unlike D2 the grind need to be specific you cannot just do activity and get what you want ....need to repeat my farm for materials for days to craft something that will take multiple IRL days
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Modifié par Jay-1 : 4/26/2023 4:05:06 AMWarframe is in no way a pay to win. You obviously haven’t played the game. Yeah I can buy a few guns that are completely trash and the base warframes from the store, then there is the prime packs you can buy that gives a prime warframe and 2 prime weapons, but u have to mod them to make them more powerful enough to do content in the game. The mid and endgame content can be a pain in warframe if you don’t have your builds set and If you don’t the hard content in warframe makes GM’s in destiny feel like easy mode. Everything in warframe that makes you stronger is locked behind quest, events, or NPC’s.
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[quote]Warframe is in no way a pay to win. You obviously haven’t played the game. Yeah I can buy a few guns that are completely trash and the base warframes from the store, then there is the prime packs you can buy that gives a prime warframe and 2 prime weapons, but u have to mod them to make them more powerful enough to do content in the game. The mid and endgame content can be a pain in warframe if you don’t have your builds set and If you don’t the hard content in warframe makes GM’s in destiny feel like easy mode. Everything in warframe that makes you stronger is locked behind quest, events, or NPC’s.[/quote] The game is literally Pay 2 Win because you can buy things to make the game substantially easier which is a indisputable fact. Saying what you are saying makes about 75% of all P2W games no longer P2W simply because you have the option to grind
