Oh and as for invis, it lasts like...seven seconds unless you run spectral blades, which, again, is one of the worst in the game. Or unless you buff your grenades again, but a lot of people don't like playing Void hunter because they don't like being forced into support.

Warlocks can't break their own ice without shooting it. Hunters I never said had the best supers I said the most one and done panic supers. Blade barrage one and done. Silence one and done. Tether one and done. Arc staff is a panic super especially middle tree because no hunter pops it around a corner they pop it when low. Throwing knives are so easy to use on both MnK and controller if you can't hit a headshot with them everytime even on moving targets you really need to get better aim. The fact as well that titans are getting their one hit removed along with warlocks yet hunters aren't is another reason people call them the love child. Hunters actually have the strongest melee they can hit faster than anyone and have more lunge than anyone, the only reason you say it's weaker is because it's a fifty fifty that you throw a melee at point blank. If you think tether is the most useless super you need to play hunter not panic super hunter because tether is stupid if you know how to use it. You can hit multiple enemies and one shot them and do that around eight times. You can put them near people and send their aim to the sky do increased damage and stop them doing anything except shoot. Tether can stop supers if hit, it can stop shoulder charge if hit or next to it, it can cancel out nades I've done it before, it curls and tracks, if you know how to curl it more it can literally go round corners all it takes is to flick it at the last second and it will curl like mad, it has more range than golden gun, doesn't go away after death, can explode multiple enemies. That's all just in PvP so don't know what hunter you're playing mate but clearly you follow the hunter trends and only use golden gun, silence and blade barrage along with middle tree arc and middle void. I love hunters they always say their supers are -blam!- but clearly don't know how to use them because if they did they would be unstoppable in PvP with tether alone. You only say it's -blam!- because you can't panic pop it and win. Plus the thing was never designed for PvP so obviously it's going to lack a bit in PvP. But if you can learn it you will never play a game were you didn't shut everyone down and go above a 15 killstreak. Golden gun has low health because it's a one shot gun that maps so having armour wouldn't allow people to kill it. And it's like any other super snipe in head dead there's no difference when it comes to headshots, body shots yeah you take more damage than a slam but titans are armour based. Warlock dodge was a little powerful but you had to jump to do it meaning you was open for that time period. It was the same as D1 when hunters could double doge without a cool down. If one class has a dodge all classes should have it, hunters is intrinsic warlocks is locked to a tree for now, titans the exotic they had. Hunter grenades are stupidity good. Void wall reach around corners can't be shot burns very quickly, void spike melts health super fast has a large area, vortex metals if stood close can't be shot works perfect with a smoke bomb. Tripmine can stick to players gets you to one tap can one hit with a certain exotic or perk, swarm eh kind of -blam!- but great for killing low health players tracks round corners travels far, solar nade high explosive damage burns stopping regen can bounce hit multiple people does impact damage, arc sticky high damage can one tap with a perk or exotic tracks slightly damages surrounding people only downfall takes practice, arc bolt hit up to three players without exotic does half health goes through titan walls if thrown at the left hand corner or right hand corner lower or upper actually has a faster regen than other arc nades which you don't notice but it does its only tiny but it's there, arc swarm just solar but has better tracking especially with an exotic and you get two of them. Hunter melee abilities. Smoke nades slow you down suppress you blind you poison you. Knives can one hit and get all back takes aim but less risky than shoulder charge, can bounce, can stick to surfaces and act as bombs, can be thrown quickly in a panic without being close, can then quicker if hit on middle tree to the point you throw it and have it back instantly, arc punch disorientates, slightly blinds you, does good damage, can be thrown along floor, can quickly be followed up by another punch faster than titan or warlock, can be regen with a dodge that does increased damage that gives back dodge that gives back melee with more damage that gives back dodge that gives back more damage melee. Saying hunters are the weakest is the dumbest most hunter main YouTuber trend follower thing ever. If you knew anything about hunter that you learned and not from videos you would look at hunters and realise just what you have and abuse it but most don't because most just go on what YouTubers say. I use to main hunter in D1 and D2 and they are broken if you don't listen to youtubers and actually use what you have. Hunters refuse to use most their exotics when most of them are really strong, they won't use strong supers because a streamers says use silence it's the only good one. Just use what you have and not for one game learn to use the other stuff and trust me you will sit there and think why the hell was I using silence. Hunters mains don't even know what power they actually have. Like any class they don't know because most just listen to youtubers and don't play around and find things that are broken as hell.