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1/15/2021 12:33:42 PM
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Sunsetting has single handedly improved destiny and is the reason I will play consistently now
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Guys don’t even bother replying to this guy’s post I think he’s using drugs smh 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️😞🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️😞🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️😞🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️😞🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️😞🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
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How did it improve Destiny? For me it makes it so that I no longer have joy from getting a good gun, because it is taken from me soon after I got it. I understand sun setting content from Red War, Osiris, and Warmind, but not seasonal, Forsaken, or Shadowkeep. A bloated loot pool is better than a shallow one. [spoiler]This is a genuine question.[/spoiler]
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Power creep- is the addition of increasingly powerful items in the game making other older weapons unable to compete. Power creep was extremely prevalent in destiny 2. The loadout varietie was very stale since the meta was so strong and was meta forever ya a certain point. How long was mountaintop and recluse meta for? A long time. Loot based games at their worst when gear last forever. The game then becomes a checklist that never gets refreshed the only exception is either they add more powerful gear to incentivize actually getting new gear which leads to power creep or they don’t add better gear which means nobody switches loadouts. Also you say your guns leave soon. Is a year really soon? You aren’t happy being able to use your new cool gun for 9 months- a year?
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No man. This is almost Bungie’s way of saying that we are too lazy to nerf things now and we want to force a new meta every season because of it. The player base should be enforcing the meta.
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Nerfing doesn’t fix the problem that’s a bandaid fix. So you nerf everything to roughly the same level then what happens when they add new weapons? Players use meta so in order for players to switch weapons the weapons need to be better or else they won’t be used. And adding better weapons repeatedly just leads to power creep
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And what if Bungie doesn’t make all weapons crazy af like Mountaintop and Recluse pre nerf? We wouldn’t have so much controversy going on.
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Ok what’s the point? That’s in the past they are fixing it now
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Yes but for future weapons like that. Literally Bungie doesn’t know how to tone the things they make. Nothing has flawlessness in this game, and I’m not expecting that. I’m just tryna say Bungie could put more effort in. Thank u for being respectful at least unlike that Shoot guy.
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Sunsetting never removed anything. People still use mountain top, Recluse, not forgotten, revoker ect in playlist pvp. Probably even more now since everyone can buy them from the kiosk
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Now they are used MUCH less. I know things weren’t removed they are just limited in high end activities. https://discord.com/channels/291026626647425025/304649050786103296/799751920461152287 How many of these weapons were meta before in the top 3 for each slot?
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Not everyone plays pvp, you know that right? My subsistence, rampage, accurized rounds, stability masterworked Gnawing Hunger is just as effective at ad clear in GoS as my Recluse was. My Gnawing Hunger has more stability and range than recluse does too. They sunsetted my curated Threat Level but now I have a Heritage with Reconstruction and Recombination. That is way more potent than Threat Level. https://youtu.be/40BnuTI5Ioc This is not how you combat power creep.
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Ok some guns are better this season by here is what you are forgetting they won’t be the best forever anymore. They don’t HAVE to add stronger weapons each season for us to switch weapons. Also I don’t believe for a moment that gun is better than recluse. Recluse got its damage bonus faster and had a reload perk and didn’t have to hit Crits on release.
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Pre nerf, it was a monster. I totally agree. Once Bungie dialed it back a bit it didn't stand so high above the alternatives.
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Well obviously... that’s how nerfs work. But what about my other point?
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I feel like if weapons did stay in the game forever there are going to be players that will keep using them, sure but getting new weapons can be a way of letting people self sunset. I cannot speak for anyone but myself but before sunsetting I regularly used about 60 different weapons give or take. Most of those were sunsetted so I've changed out my loadouts to accommodate. If you inspect my characters at any given time you will see that instead of using 60 different weapons, im down to about 8. Primary: Heritage or True Prophecy Special: Posterity or similar hand cannon, Gnawing Hunger, or Jian 7 Heavy: Lament, Xenophage, Anarchy, and occasionally Eyes of Tomorrow My point: I'm using less weapons because I have less weapons.
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You are the minority and that’s statistically true. Most players use meta check the trackers. That means in order to get players to use new gear the gear has to be better. Adding better gear continually means power creep. See the problem
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I agree, I've always said that sunsetting wasn't for players like me. Even if you are pro sunsetting i would expect you to at least see the redundancy of sunsetting gear and immediately reissuing it.
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New perks is fine it means they can add more
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I do think they could've just added new perks into them as current guns instead of sunsetting them just to reissue. Probably would've gone over better with the community [u]and[/u] less work/stress on them
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Adding new perks doesn’t fix all the problems that sunsetting does
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What has sunsetting fixed? Lowered my desire to play. Reduced the number if weapons I used
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The meta will change every season or 2. Also it will help against power creep
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Let me rephrase. How does sunsetting help [u]pve only[/u] players? I dont care about what can kill you in pvp Don't talk about power creep because I have weapons that are stronger than my old ones. I also have weapons that were sunsetted and reissued with the exact same rolls as before. You can still use sunsetted weapons in playlist activities.
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It debatably helps them the most. It will shake up and keep the pve endgame meta changing
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Well I hope this is the case. I hope we get some new weapons that are fun to use. I love to use weapons with interesting reload or firing animations. Remember the weapons from Kingsfall? There were flames that shot out of the sides when you fired them. The hand cannon was dang near useless but I still equipped it because it was fun to fire and reload
