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11/23/2020 4:59:26 AM
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so why do hunters get only 2 fragment slots, but warlocks get 4?
I was hoping that at the very least i get one more fragment slot, because warlocks got a 4th with the 2nd aspect. not calling for more nerfing of warlocks (yall have gotten enough) i think all classes should be able to get the same amount of fragment slots from the first 2 aspects we get though. Bungie, this is ridiculous.
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1 commentaireBecause Warlocks have the be more OP than everybody else. We hunters are not allowed to have anything, not even our dodge ability.
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Because hunter is -blam!-ing amazing. Doesn't need 3 slots.
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Given there’s room in the Stasis subclass UI for additional Aspects as well as Fragments, Jumps, Melees and Grenades, it’s possible they could add new options down the line. If more Aspects are added at some point the devs will likely take the current feedback into consideration when determining the number of Fragment slots assigned to whatever is added. (΄◉◞౪◟◉｀)
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4 commentairesModifié par J : 11/30/2020 8:56:33 AMJesus, the amount of toxicity in this topic seems to be off the roof. Either that, or I'm just not looking at the forums enough. As someone who plays both warlocks and hunters. I'd say both are whining so much it's annoying. Yes it would be nice if hunters had more fragments, and warlocks are exaggerating about being "nerfed to the ground". The super is still okay, especially for a roaming super. The melee, i would agree is quite shitty right now, hope bungie buffs that back up to atleast get the range on par of something like top tree dawnblade. Rift slow is actually useful especially for pve, I don't get all the toxicity of warlocks whining about their rift being useless compared to hunters. It has saved me tons of times. Only problem i have is rift cooldown being worse than dodge, that needs a little buff imo, or maybe my stats are just low. For hunters, I'd argue that dodge itself already got nerfed cooldown wise. But it is true that i myself was quite annoyed at how I don't have the same amount of fragments i would be able to use on warlock, it's just such a weird thing to do imo, especially since there are so many combinations i would like to also try on hunters. I would also argue silence and squall as being the worst stasis super compared to the rest, simply because it's not a roaming super and the while it's good for pve rank and files. It's just a worse middle tree solar on pvp. I can't count how many times I've been frozen as a hunter while going up and trying to shutdown a warlock super with my silence and squall, so theres that. This whole toxicity between classes where one class says that another doesn't deserve something or needs to have the bad end of the stick for once is such a toxic behavior it's disgusting. Everyone, every class should have the right to have fun, it's a damn game after all. Also all these people looking at stats and experience to "judge whether their opinions matter or not because they're 'noobs' " is just bull#_@. What's going on with this whole elitist mindset, why the hell should someone not be able to say or express their opinions just because they haven't played as much as you, or aren't as good as you stat wise? Grow up people, seriously, the toxicity in this community is disgusting me. Is it really that hard to have an adult mindset and simply agree to disagree? You guys really do tend to show how most people are just really bigoted (if you don't agree with me/us, shut up)
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1 commentaireIn retrospect, Titans get 3 fragment slots after all is said and done. Tho, it might have something to do with how [i]they[/i] view the classes respective prowess in stasis. Which, I think they have misjudged because warlock has the best stasis super by far.
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14 commentairesTotally understand where you are coming from. I main Warlock and Hunter. The thing is before this Hunters could avoid damage, reload all weapons, recharge melee, and turn invisible with the press of one button (with the correct exotic/sub class equipped). Currently they can 1. Evade damage 2. Turn invisible 3. Reload all weapons 4. Recharge melee 5. Slow an enemy (with correct build) all in one motion. If you switch out the exotic armor you can substitute one of those things for healing, blinding. Not saying I would not like more either but there is a lot going on with a single press on the button currently.
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5 commentairesIt is what it is. Life isn’t fair, but hunters are just stronger in the neutral game anyways. Does one really need all the fragment slots for the current hunter aspect? I say no. It’s balanced to what the aspects each class currently have. Let’s see what the next aspects that have fragment slots do for each class.
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Because hunters have a much shorter cooldown on their class ability. Both aspect abilities can be used very often.
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3 commentairesBecause Hunters have two aspects that are abilities in and of themselves. Shatter strike, and the freezing dodge. Pluse their super is Fire-and-Forget-it. Whereas Warlocks have to stay in close proximity to their target and continually attack it to get the most of out their super.
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3 commentairescalled balance , they should remove one slot from warlock btw
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Dude, forget every think everyone sayed before, they are all dumb, Hunter, or Warlock or Titan main, just dumb peolple playing a good game, the fact that Hunter and Titans have 2 fragemi slot is do to a bug probebly, bungei will fixe this (i hope).
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Because a hunter in the hands of a good player is REALLY just too powerful, take what you got and use it to its fullest potential instead of getting warlocks nerfed AGAIN for some stupid reason like "i can't win against it so nerf it" when its not even the abilities fault, its yours.
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[quote]I was hoping that at the very least i get one more fragment slot, because warlocks got a 4th with the 2nd aspect. not calling for more nerfing of warlocks (yall have gotten enough) i think all classes should be able to get the same amount of fragment slots from the first 2 aspects we get though. Bungie, this is ridiculous.[/quote] The number of fragments is limited to balance the internal skill tree of each class individually. If they didn’t have limited fragments then hunters could spec into being strong at everything instead of requiring the player to make specific choices about their build playstyle. It’s not designed to balance all three classes relative power against each other, more isn’t better if you can’t take advantage of the fragments ability.
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6 commentairesOh would you Hunters shut the F up about Warlocks already!
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I play hunter and Warlock (more Warlock) and to me it seems fair like that 2 and 4 juste because hunter have a way of doing things that don't make a need for other fragments. And for the Warlock with all his nerf I think with the fragments it balance it and if you remove him his fragments it will be to weak.
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25 commentaires
Grim Eats CakeStuffing my face. - ancien
It's the aspects. Your aspects are better than ours so they give us fragments to try and compensate. The frostpulse aspect is ass. Who the fuk is going to sit in front of an enemy; outside of patrols and public events, to drop a rift in an effort to freeze them? The rift animation is still slow af and the healing got a pretty big nerf, and empowerment has an even slower animation than the healing one. Meanwhile, hunters slow people down just by dodging and combined with the fragment that extends the slow time it's obnoxious. I don't know what the other titan aspect is but I guarantee it's miles ahead of frostpulse. -
1 commentaireWarlocks are better at math?
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Cos hunters get a 4 sec freeze and warlocks get 1 sec 🤭
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First you people complain about our melee then you complain about fragments ?!??? Also our melee is untouched don’t tell anyone (ophiden aspects)
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Hunter main here since D1 beta, and the answer is we don't need more than two period. Bungie even added more cd to dodge before BL, because of scenarios of people crying over hunter aspects. Yes dodge/slow is dirty af but also requires very specific set ups and gear. But give it by December and we'll get nerfed if enough cry as usual.
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While the Europa Triumph is completed by earning two Aspects, the subclass UI has room for a third (as well as room for potential future additions to the class ability, jump, melee and grenade selections). So there’s a possibility they will add additional Aspects down the line that will more closely balance the ability to equip Fragments among the classes. (΄◉◞౪◟◉｀)
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Apparently slow on dodge is so amazing that we can't get another fragment slot according to all these non-hunters. Awesome if it's so busted TAKE IT BACK. I'd take some decent build variety every single day of the week. This Slam through glacier wall build is fantastic, but I'd rather throw it the trash than be pigeonholed into a class that can only be played one way. It took me about 48 hours to naturally to find the only good build and there is no room for experimentation when we get screwed by having less options than everyone else.
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7 commentairesBecause Hunters are OP and deserved a shitty Subclass for once.
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Slow on dodge It’s very powerful, played with it a ton after getting it. It’s crazy good, especially with the melee. Just dodge and throw melee then bam easy frozen kill for the taking
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3 commentairesHunters get 3 at least my hunter. Im sure its because warlocks do not have a shatter mechanic. Like shatter dive or titans slide.
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