I only play it for quests and loot. I used to enjoy playing Destiny 1 PVP....but Destiny 2's has been a turn off and a disappointment. Destiny 1's Crucible---especially in Y1 and Y2 was a fast, rough-and-tumble affair that has a lot in common with one of my favorite games: Titanfall 1 and 2. But Y3 of D1, and most of D2 has been (imo) marred by this effort to force it to play more like Halo. A game that is---to the modern shooter gamer----slow and boring. To make matters worse, the Sandbox and Crucible teams were so hellbent on forcing the game to play like Halo, that they removed the ability to play it any other way. So---unless you mobbed up, lane-camped and teamshot or mobbed up, deathballed, and teamshot-----you were going to find very little success playing the game. ....and that is simply a way to play that I find painfully boring and predictable. Then there was the CBMM of Quickplay.......