Innnnnnnteresting.
I mean if you think about it we already spend more on healthcare a year than what the highest estimate from the Koch Brothers says Medicare for all would cost....
Video at the link
https://www.yahoo.com/news/bernie-sanders-gets-support-for-medicare-for-all-proposal-from-fox-news-audience-000818996.html?.tsrc=fauxdal
Bernie Sanders gets support for 'Medicare for All' proposal from Fox News audience
Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., held a town hall on Monday on Fox News and drew unexpected support from the audience for his plan to provide government-run health insurance to all Americans.
“I want to ask the audience a question, if you could raise your hand here,” moderator Bret Baier said, addressing the crowd assembled in Bethlehem, Pa., to see Sanders speak. “A show of hands of how many people get their insurance from work, private insurance right now.”
Most in the audience raised a hand.
“Now of those,” Baier continued, “how many are willing to transition to what the senator says, a government-run system?”
Approximately the same number of people, many of them cheering loudly, raised a hand again, apparently surprising Baier, who added, “There’s 180 million people on private insurance, and they would be lost, right?”
“Fair question,” Sanders responded. “I know it’s what the right wing throws out, so let me answer it, all right? Millions of people every single year lose their health insurance, you know why? They get fired or they quit and they go to another employer. I was a mayor for eight years and you know what I did, what probably every mayor in America does, is you look around for the best insurance program, the most cost-effective insurance. You change insurance. Every year, millions of workers wake up in the morning and their employer has changed the insurance that they have. Maybe they liked the doctors, some people are nodding their heads, OK. So this is not new, every year. Now what we’re talking about actually is stability. That when you have a ‘Medicare for All’ it is there now and will be there in the future.”
The audience again cheered what Sanders had proposed, and the Vermont senator’s campaign wasted little time in posting the exchange to social media.
President Trump has made dismantling the Affordable Care Act a top priority of his first two years in office, promising that “the Republican Party will soon be known as the party of health care.” No formal health care plan from the administration has yet been written, and members of the president’s party have urged him to back off his promises until after the 2020 election.
Some progressives criticized Sanders for appearing on Fox News, which the candidate himself has described as “right-wing propaganda” intended to benefit Trump.
But in an interview with HuffPost, Sanders explained his rationale for appearing on the network.
“When I go on Fox, what I will say is, ‘Look, many of you voted for Donald Trump, but he lied to you,’” Sanders said. “‘He told you he was gonna provide health care for everybody. Yet his policies are to throw 30 million people off of the health insurance they have.’”
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3 commentairesBernie Sanders is still gonna lose though
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9 commentairesWhat Senator Sanders doesn't and won't mention is that Vermont passed a version of "single payer" or universal health care in 2011, only to have it scrapped by their governor in 2014. The reason - the state budget couldn't handle it.
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6 commentaires... Well this wasn't your typical Fox news audience, this was primarily Bernie supporters probably, because your typical Fox news watcher doesn't show up to see Bernie, do you know who does show up to see Bernie? Bernie supporters... [spoiler]not included in the DLC[/spoiler]
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10 commentairesThey let Bernie Sanders supporters in. In other words, this wasn't typical fox news audience. All this proves is Bernie "economically illiterate" Sanders supporters support Bernie "economically illiterate" Sanders.
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I don't know that this is that big of a deal honestly. I mean, we don't know how the crowd was selected or any of that (well, I don't know, it may have already been talked about) so there's a chance that he swayed a group of Trump loyalists that religiously watch Fox News but there's also a chance that the location meant they pulled in a mainly Democrat audience. Either way, I think he's got some bad ideas but I'd agree that our current system should change. We need to pick a direction and run with it. Whether that's deregulation or government take over I don't know. I'd lean toward a real free market, but I won't pretend to be supremely knowledgeable about this whole thing as to make a definitive claim either way.
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3 commentaires... Okay dude, why you steal my name? Not cool dude, not cool... [spoiler]not included in the DLC[/spoiler]
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18 commentairesHealthcare for all=less doctors=no room in er for you if you need it=dead
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62 commentairesNo thanks, I like capitalism.
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4 commentairesBut will he do anything against Big Pharma, the subhuman slime lords responsible for how expensive everything is in the first place?
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The only reason this hasn't been settled so far is because the health insurance industry wants a plan that contains zero patient protections and rights. They also want health policies to require arbitration and appeal processes which they alone control. Despite generating substantial profits in each of the years since ACA took effect, and despite the fact that top six health insurance providers made more than a 28% profit for 17-18, they know that they can make billions more if all of the rights and protections for patients and policy holders are removed. This is exactly why despite holding Congress and White House, the GOP was unable to pass repeal. Their own members know that the public would revolt if they gave the insurance industry what they want, which is for us all to be at their absolute mercy.
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koch bros are turds.
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I saw the interview, the audience clapped for, I don't know, almost every point he made. You can agree with him all you want, but saying a "Fox News Audience" agreeing with one point of his is phenomenal is ridiculous when they were in obvious support of most of his points, meaning they were with him, they were not won over or a surprise supporter
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Health care for all is a scam and anyone who believes its possible with the same quality of care is delusional and knows absolutely nothing of politics and how the economy works. Obama Care is the ultimate example of how screwed up health care for all and anything government run on that level is.
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8 commentairesModifié par RandyDaGod : 4/16/2019 2:24:34 PMThe thing about a Government run health Care system is the VA... If the government isn't willing to help out veterans in the correct way what makes people think they'll do it for ordinary citizens like us? I don't know what the answer should be to the correct system. There's horror stories in government run health care and we've all personally witnessed or heard horror stories in our current health care system. I personally just don't like the government involved in more aspects of my life.
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1 commentaireI'll wait for Ben Shapiro rebuttal so I can own you libtards epic style 😎
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4 commentairesModifié par Lia : 4/16/2019 11:43:21 AMI wouldn't mind it, personally. It would weaken the federal government by draining its funds so yeah I'm for that.
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4 commentairesHot take: Bernie is the electable moderate of the 2020 primaries
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26 commentairesModifié par SpongyMallard7 : 4/16/2019 9:05:25 PMThis is why politics should not belong here. Why do I ever bother to post anything...
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60 commentairesHow is this news? That (when compared to the whole) a few people cheered. The stupidity is astounding
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I thought it was a good town hall. Good questions were asked. I just didn't like how he dodged the question on sanctuary cities and the question politcally motivated. I thought it was a "real question" as one of the moderators pointed out.
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Good for them... [spoiler]no really good for them[/spoiler]
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2 commentairesAmazing what can happen when people step out of their bubble.
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Socialized medicine is popular with the majority of Americans. There is a reason why the ACA wasn't repealed when Trump had both houses of congress on his side.
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Modifié par Speaker : 4/17/2019 9:09:47 PM[quote] ‘Look, many of you voted for Donald Trump, but he lied to you,’” Sanders [/quote] Liars talking about liars.