The summit wasn't to get feedback on anything in warmind, the difficulty change in E.P was literally the only thing bungie could have altered as the entire product was all but finalized. Basing the entire summit off of that is foolish and shortsighted as the entire field of feedback was geared towards September.

I agree man. For those who no life the game like streamers its easy. For those who have a different life, 9-5 jobs,kids,wife ect ect...EP feels like to me i wont complete level 7 before the next expansion lol.

Oh boy, I can't do everything in the game so it's bad. Maybe play the parts that aren't designed for high-light full fireteams instead of being sad that you're not good and geared enough for it.

I really don’t understand the issue here? So, from what I DO understand, you are upset about the Protocol being too difficult for the Casual Player. In addition, you have a separate gripe with the YouTube Streamers’ Hypocrisy, in which they themselves suggested the increased difficulty, yet complain that it is too hard.”. I’ll agree, the streamers are hypocrites, they are whining about something they did, but simultaneously, I disagree with the desire to decrease the Protocol’s Difficulty. Keep it hard, keep it too hard, give people something to reach for. Do not complain about grind, then complain when you have to grind, makes the community a hypocrite in itself. Give it an activity launcher, so that a group can select it, and load into an instance of Mars together. Problem solved. In the meantime, go get gear, and get some practice in, you’ve been playing easy content for too long, you forgot what a real game can be like.

I made a post before that the average YouTuber is not a normal gamer. People that have invested and are looking for subscribers leeching off of Destiny's popularity are not the people that represent your average Joe Schmo player. Some of these people literally do nothing but play this game and they should not be the ones chiming in about how easy or difficult it should be. There needs to at least be a balance, as you said, of normal players that can interact and have the freedom to progress doing the things they actually want to do. Look at Halo and all the modes that were just readily available to anyone at any time. Although these were not linked to a progression system per se, they took their content and maximized it and gave players the freedoms they craved which is why people played it so much. For every YouTuber, streamer, reviewer or any of the lake there should have been 10 other people from the community. I look up some of these guys like Dado and they lay into Bungie but at the same time produce these guides within hours of game release showing the level of two-faced hypocrisy as a devil's advocate. They complain about the game wanting to seem edgy but put obsessive amounts of hours into it because they know people are watching and subscribing to their channels. It's borderline selling out if not outright selling out. I think these hypercritics are just as much to blame about the current condition of the game as Bungie. To prove my point look at the difference between Star Wars and Deadpool. Deadpool would never have happened if it wasn't for all the fan support and input, they stayed true to the character and what made it good in the first place and they ran with it. Star Wars did the opposite ignoring Mark Hamill and the fans and just making whatever the heck they wanted and listen to take money reviewers Philip approval instead of the people who were paying the tickets. Aside from what Rotten Tomatoes said the approval for The Last Jedi was way below and the ticket sales or underwhelming and now there is a back lash of fans because they refused to listen to the average person to do whatever they wanted trampling on an established franchise and expecting success no matter what. I see Halo a lot like Deadpool as a game was created for fans and players while Star Wars is a lot like D2 which was created as a formula and then rubber stamp by far removed big money people or people that were invested somehow in more than just fandom. And here we are

You don't need 9 players at max lvl. I completed a lvl 7 over a week ago. Just need to be organised and get everyone together, thats the hardest part.

If you needed 9 max light guys, that's just overkill.

Escalation Protocol isn’t for a team of max light guardians though, I’d say a team of max light guardians would make the activity easy, if not just tedious. The level climb is slow now, and people are attempting high light activities at too low a level. That’s what the problem is, a very steep level climb.

From what I’ve heard the rewards aren’t even that high of a light level, so there’s not even a point in trying

I'm not saying it's the streamers fault, but the way D2 is now organised it is pretty harsh on solo players. I like how it was at the end of D1. You could level up by simply playing the activities you love. In D2 you can only do so by playing al the milestones. Especially raid and trials. Ugh.

Dude, your max character is 348, no wonder you are getting stomped on EP. Get some more light and it will be easier. According to Bungie, having 3 max light guardians is enough to beat it. But right now, Current legit max light possible is around 375~