Finally some relevant thread! I come here everyday trying to find something cool to discuss, but I only find endless threads of nonsense complains. The elemental mods are a very important new feature, but I hope it becomes hard to get, or else it will become obsolete. D2 seems to be a lot more focused on strategy fight than just shot, shot and shot. I'm loving it!

The problem is what's missing, not what's added, PVP as an example should have all the previous game modes, rumble, supremacy, rift but unfortunately I don't see these being much fun as 4v4, rumble itself may not return what's it going to be 1v3, 1v7?

Anyone else here who actually doesn't give af about people bitching or defending and just likes to play the game just cuz? Just asking because it's hard to find those types of people.

Let me get hyped that they finally implemented the changes we've been asking them to do for 3 years - in a sequel!

i can't believe it's not butter

I hope there are no burn modifiers cause that'd make kinetics pointless when it's active

Great post. But you honestly won't find a more toxic forum. Go to Reddit man. It's a much more mature place for discussing D1&2

With everything that seems to be wrong with this beta I could give 2 shits about a ship and gun shader. Like really dude...

No one is talking about it because the community (whining part) = sheep. They all gather under rocks( youtube hate channels) and don't listen to reason, they don't accept the new direction the game is going, its heart breaking for them. They only fester on the small details that matter to no one but them. They dont care about stuff like this. They only want blink on their hunter and super spam, ability spam ect ect

All this is great. But only salt is talked about here, sadly

[quote]Based on the menus it looks like... ...we're going to be able to use mods to switch the element of our weapons. ...we're going to be able to use shaders on our weapons and ship.[/quote] As much as this sounds great, it's only based on speculation. When Bungie makes an announcement about this being true then I will. . . . . . . . . still not believe it! Once I actually see it working then I will believe it.

No offense but nobody is talking about these because they aren't that relevant, and frankly this is a poor attempt to defend Bungie again, and just sounds like another "look on the bright side" post. I'm not denying that these things aren't good, I'm just saying they are easily forgettable in the grand scheme. I'm not going to buy D2 because I can change my scout rifle from red to blue. Wow weapon shaders...the Bungie fashion show continues. Swapping weapon elements, you mean having to go into your menu, pull up your weapon, change the mod, then continue fighting, meanwhile you have probably died while in your menu. You could swap elements in D1 just by swapping guns in your menu. Neither of these things counter balance the negativity of some of the other stuff, just for example, the new weapon system in PVE. And for those of you that are about to post a reply telling me how great the weapon system is, go count the threads to the contrary, and articles from trusted sites like Kotaku, IGN, etc that agree. (for PVE) None of these things you mention are actual gameplay innovations, or fundamental game improvements. Not having to go to orbit to change locations. Jesus christ, this is going to absolutely change the game....are you kidding me? People have not been asking for weapon shaders, and not having to go to orbit 99% of the time since Destiny's inception. They may have improved a few of the most insignificant things, but they either broke or ignored the most important things. Example of fundamental game change: Instead of forcing 2 primaries on us so we have an elemental slot, how about just mapping a second weapon to a D-pad button. This is actually something people have been asking for for a very, very long time and there are posts about it weekly. It would solve multiple problems and it is something you have been able to do in video games since the N64 and Playstation 1. (By the way, you recognizing their skill at re-skinning everything in the game for the past 1.5 years as "ways of making old content relevant again" literally made me feel sorry for you.) I don't ignore the positive, I am just not a "look on the bright side" guy. Look on the bright side, that tornado destroyed your house, but it mowed your grass for you. That's a positive.

[quote] ...we're going to be able to use shaders on our weapons and ship. .[/quote] Eververse haven

Imagine that you buy a car. You go to the merchant, inspect the test car, do some testing drives. You order it. And when it ships you get a completely wrecked abomination. Everything demolished, rusted, the windshield broken, no tyres ... And all the merchant has to say to that is: [i]But the stereo still works![/i] [i]And you can change the colour of the car!!!![/i] And you get a free number plate with "Destiny 2" written in it.

Wow. We got something we asked for, but we also got a bunch of stupid changes that nobody asked for. The bad outweighs the good by a lot.

this game is trash. Who cares about Gun shaders? Does anybody actually give a shit about what their gun looks like? Maybe we cared about it 3 years ago, but at this point I rather have a fun game than some shitty gun shader or a screensaver for the orbit. I personally didn't like the beta. I thought it was way worse than current version of Destiny. Not only did they take the fun out abilities, they increased cooldown on everything. I understand that this is a new game, but if it aint broke don't fix it. Did anyone ever complain that ability spam was making the game worse?