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Modifié par AK47Trainwreck :
7/17/2015 7:41:56 PM
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Bungies's 2.0 weapons update their biggest mistake yet?
So many of people's favorite weapons will become completely demolished! Do you think bungie has dropped the ball? No one asked for 90% of these changes!
Edit: good discussion. Almost 700 replies still almost 50/50
Edit: still 50/50ish. Keep voting and voicing those opinions!
Edit: Bungie finally found the nerf button on the keyboard and just spammed it!
Edit: I wish they could learn to balance pve and pvp separate!
Edit: over a 1000 posts later and its still pretty split. No landslide on this topic!
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#Destiny
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Hmmm let's see won't be missing these Bye bye quilters -thorn -tlw -gally Happy because Auto rifles op again
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Fresh start with new content. TDB and HoW were over way too fast from carrying over my best weapons. I think new weapons and balancing will make year 2 a more immersive undertaking.
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I don't like it but it was the right thing to do
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19 commentairesI think they went too crazy. Why need blackhammer and ice breaker? Who had a problem with those? Basically what they are doing with this is taking every gun that stands out and Nerfing it to where it's nothing special. This might be ok in some games, but the whole reason to play this game is to get gear. Weapons that make you feel powerful and be able to do awesome stuff. They're killing that. Any weapon is as good as any other as long as its base dmg is 365. I get balance, but I think they went too far, specifically with pve changes. I actually really like the thorn dot change and last word changes. Pvp had become too one note when it comes to what weapons are used. Gjallarhorn as a weapon wasn't a problem, the community was. Maybe matchmaking for raids would've fixed that instead of Nerfing the weapon everyone strives to get and the one that keeps people playing for weeks and months in hopes of getting one. There are lots of folks, myself included, who have this and have never, ever kicked someone or not let them into a raid because they didn't have gjallarhorn. Hurting everyone because of bad behavior by some sucks. And the blackhammer and icebreaker nerf come out of left field for no reason. Blackhammer is basically no better than any other sniper now. What's the point of raiding now? I can get guns that are just as good from vendors. Raid weapons and exotics should stand out. They should be special. Otherwise why would I try to get them? I think this "balancing" will turn out to be a big mistake in the long run. P.S. No weapon at all from xur this week? Did Bungie lose their minds this week or what?
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Most of the changes I'm ok with. The IB/BH/gally nerf I wasn't to happy about, but I'm not gonna quit over it. It took me 9 months to get the gally, and I never had problems getting into a group. Those guns were "bullet sponge" killers that seem to be multiplying with each DLC. You have to have something to counter the max level +1 endgame content we seem to be getting lately The thing that I am noticing is that weapons are getting more lack luster with each dlc. Hunger and black hammer are the only two guns that really stick out to me from the TDB. Theres really not any guns I want in the HoW pve side. The fallen perks on the end game content weapons kinda killed them for me. The trials guns are the only ones I want. It seems like anytime a gun stands out in this game is gonna get nerfed before long. Then a new gun will emerge as the new "op" gun, and it repeats over and over. And will probably go on for the next 9 yrs too I'll wait and see how I feel about the new balancing. It won't stop me from getting the TTK. ( I may downgrade from getting the lendary edition to just the TTK digital version instead).
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My favorite weapons got nerfed. I liked using Thorn before it got buffed and I still liked it when everybody else was using it. I didn't use it because other people did. I just found it to be a fun weapon to use. I see these changes as making the fun weapons less fun to use. The interesting weapons are losing their distinctiveness.
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It allows players to use the weapon they want not what other people want them to use!
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The only thing that u didn't like was the IB nerf everything else was acceptable
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No the nerfs were badly needed. Everyone was exploiting the same handful of weapons so there was no variety. Now with this bringing a certain amount of competitive balance to the game we will see a wider variety of exotics being used.
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I like it because: It's just 10% Wolfpack round nerf, Gjallarhorn will still be pretty much the same. The current pvp meta is nigh unplayable if you don't use Thorn or The last word, and these nerfs make it fun to play pvp with other weapons again. No land beyond will be easier to trick shot with. [spoiler]those were the main ones.[/spoiler]
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3 commentairesBlack hammer and ice breakers nerfs are entirely unnecessary, hawkmoon does not need two more bullets, and fusion rifles do not need to be nerfed any further than they already are and our favorite rocket launcher does not need to be messed with
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Only thing I disagree with was the change to black hammer
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8 commentairesModifié par Armaggedon4Life : 7/18/2015 1:18:48 AMThorn, last word, and gyallahorn. Few weapons were considered for the exotic slot to be chosen instead of them. Variance will allow other weapons which were overshadowed by the above to now be used. Tell me why that's bad? I also don't think they are any worse than before although degraded, they were outclassing most if not all exotics.
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So amazed at the level of idiocy. It appears to have been Bungies plan all along, all year one weapons will be weaker and obsolete, once “The Taken King” DLC drops. The DLC will of course introduce a whole new set of year two weapons having higher attack values. Players will likely not be allowed to ascend any, legendary or exotic, year one weapons to the new, year two attack level. IMO, this is why Bungie has been virtually silent on this matter. They have seen the backlash in the forums where many players are not happy with the idea. Players have vowed that they would be done with Destiny, especially if they quite literally have to start all over again. Well welcome to phase one of this being done. They are calling it “Weapon tuning 2.0”. The primary reason for this update is to make all of your favorite year one weapons, not so great anymore. So by nerfing all of your great year one weapons, Bungie is hoping it will be easier to separate you from these favorites, once TTK drops. Of course there are other valid reasons for the update as well. However, I believe the primary under lying goal is to ease players into the changes that TTK will bring without turning them off to the idea of buying it. So this seemed to explain why the Weapon tuning 2.0 update is going to nerf weapons that no one complained about and were perfectly fine as they were. All of this simply because it is now Bungies goal to make all year one weapons less desirable so that TTK DLC won’t seem like such a bad deal. Destiny lacks content, so they want to reset progress and make players grind out everything all over again, with a tad more content at a hefty price. Many are ok with that and say it is expected from games like this. Others are not ok with it. Either way, Bungie should just fully disclose what their plans are and reveal in detail, exactly what new content players will be getting for their $40.[/quote]
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The biggest mistake Bungie made (is making) is not nerfing all the babies on here.
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Like any of us know. Half of us are saying "I hate the taste of this flavor I've never had". #NoLandBeyond>Thorn
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I'm slightly disgusted that the poll is pretty much 50/50. The worst thing bungie have done? Really? I am not trying to be mean or anything and instead of disagreeing with people and arguing, I'd like you to save your complaints until you have played the new 'balanced' meta.
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they act like black hammer was the best gun ever
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1 commentaireI hope Gjallerhorn is nerfed into the ground ^-^
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No. It's the best thing that happened to destiny. Time to play the game how it was meant to be played. Not using galleys to evade boss fight mechanics and any difficulty PvE may present.
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1 commentaireIt's not that bad... This forum is so dramatic. It's like the Effin Lifetime channel in here.
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4 commentairesThe real reveal trailer The Taken Wallet DLC Are you ready for the fight of your life, Guardian? You killed Crota and Now Oryx HAS COME FOR YOUR WALLET. - Experience recycled levels, - Old enemies - Broken gameplay. - Unbalanced multiplayer - No dedicated servers. - same weapons with different colors and names or with a few exterior add on and armors that look ridiculously stupid with dumb names - A RNG system that will make you think that nothing is ever random. - No new vault space to store new weapons. Which weapons will you keep? And how many 100's will you delete? Oryx has come to wreck your wallet, Guardian. BEND OVER AND TAKE IT LIKE A CHAMP! Brought to you by Bungievision! Pre order now, year one guardians get a crappy shader, emblem, and sparrow. And to all the new guardians out there get everything, yes EVERYTHING! for half the price as our loyal community! Also you get cooler preorder bonuses that vanilla players don't.
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They only botched two guns. Everything else seems ok.
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It's so so. Black hammer, fusions and the shotguns 10% damage reduction in PVE are all IMO BS
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2 commentairesi like what tgey are doing with the ghallarhorn it sounds like a small nerf tht COULD help with finding raids and poe content i think that although it is harsh the black hammer nerf is fair seeing as how it is being given a larger magazine and I see where they are coming from because it can do a lot of damage against bosses quickly without having to find ammo at all i like the thorn one seeing as how most of the crucible is taken up by thorns and how quickly you can kill someone i also understand the last word nerf i have used it and i get the range nerf but the stability nerf makes me a bit uneasy because the stability can be rough when rapid firing and i know that a stability upgrade exists but i hope it doesn't drastically effect the recoil I also understand the icebreaker nerf and i hope that the black hammer nerf makes the ice breaker used more often im also glad about the auto rifle and fusion rifle buffs i hope it makes awesome weapons like the suros used more often
