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Modifié par Kirby235711 :
9/15/2016 12:33:07 AM
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Bungie, at least RESPOND to us about PvE balance.
There are plenty of topics right now of people doubting whether you care about PvE, and rightfully so. Countless weapons and abilities that were already weak in PvE were nerfed into near uselessness because of their performance in PvP. The worst part is, you haven't even responded to us [i]once[/i] to at least say that you care. So [i]please[/i], say something. You can say whatever you want. You can apologize and promise that you'll start paying attention, insist that you've always payed attention, show us a gif of you giving the middle finger, whatever. Just SAY SOMETHING.
Edit: A lot of people are missing that I'm upset about nerfs to weapons that were already weak, and are instead thinking that I'm mostly upset about the nerfs to things that were in the meta anyways. Just thought that I'd clarify.
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Bump, we need answers
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7 commentairesModifié par Sage 13 : 9/15/2016 9:54:35 PMWhy buff shotguns only for PvE, then nerf them across both PvE and PvP? Why did the ammo nerf even happen to PvE? It affected PvE far more negatively than PvP. Why did you nerf Touch of Malice for one of the few situations it actually worked in? Why nerf Gjallarhorn if it was going to become irrelevant anyway in Y2? Why remove elemental primaries? They were only good for burn Nightfalls, and there were still ways to keep variety. You simply found a way to make gear more mediocre and make loot-based, grindy raids less rewarding. Why nerf Icebreaker when it was your fault for creating the situations Icebreaker thrived in in the first place? We couldn't get close to bullet-sponge Bosses without dying to AoE attacks, but rather than make the boss fights different, they stayed the same and you removed a solution to the problem. Why are PvP bugs addressed so quickly, yet there are still some bugs in VoG and CE that are still present? These are but some of the few out of the many instances where Bungie has given PvE the shaft to focus on PvP. We just want some transparency, but apparently that's too much to ask. We're all aware it's impossible to keep PvE and PvP the same without ruining the fun for the other, so why do you even bother trying?
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1 commentaireThose taken snipers just don't miss anymore, do they? They'll kill you dead.
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2 commentairesModifié par allthegoodstuff : 9/15/2016 9:55:07 AMEverybody thinks bungie reads this forum, lol. They say they do, but they really don't. They are too busy kissing youtoobers and twitch streamer's asses. They only react to those folks. If it happens to align with the community at large, well that just luck.
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44 commentaires[quote]How about the "leaving behind" of the majority of yr1 "content" but not leaving behind anything from yr2 going into yr3!!!! Seriously, they may not change the LL of KF raid, but it's items will still be infuseable so it's still relevant unlike VoG/CE/PoE....[/quote] SO MUCH of this. It is entirely BS that Y1 gear gets left behind, but Y2 players will keep their gear. Just bring back elemental primaries (the ONLY reason to hold Y1 gear back) and do it the right way, and then there are ZERO issues with bringing forward Y1 gear. Don't make me regrind to obtain what I already have. Just let us do a few PoE to get Etheric Light, which we can then use to make the gear INFUSE READY. Then let us ascend them just like we do with other gear. Stop treating Y1 players like trash. We played the ever loving TISH out of this game, we recruited people to come play this game with us, boosting YOUR bottom line. We served as free advertising in game stores for you to customers considering whether to buy into your game. Even more than that, we paid a PREMIUM to play this game beyond what Y2 players paid. What to we have to show for it? MoTY1 emblem, IF you were able to complete all the activities to get it. That's it. Nothing else from Y1 is really relevant - Even the flipping class items. Seriously, not moving Y1 gear forward while moving Y2 gear forward is a major slap in the face we legacy (Y1) players will remember when we're at the store debating on whether or not to reup with your franchise.
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1 commentaireI would like the sand box team to put out a message addressing the PvE community and talk about the issues that we want addressed, but the more time goes on the more I feel the comment wisnuski made on a PvP podcast about PvP being his main concern was deliberately meant to mean he couldn't careless for PvE problems. to my knowledge there have only been a handful of PvE related buffs and I believe 2 of them where later removed and one (the shotgun damage increase in PvE) was nerfed to a value worse then it started off at.
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5 commentaires[quote]abilities that were already weak in PvE were nerfed into near uselessness because of their performance in PvP.[/quote] When did this happen?
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1 commentaireEVERY nerf should be removed from PvE. PvP crybabies have ruined the game for most of the player base.
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Bungie doesn't care about PVE. Let's face it, it's easy as hell. I could go into a raid with basic vendor gear and as long as I knew the mechanics & my light level was decent, I would do fine. Every other PVE activity is even easier. So, Bungie nerfs whatever they cuz they know Guardians will still be overpowered for PVE
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62 commentairesTake it from someone who plays a lot of PvE: the weapons are fine. Sniper Rifles suffered a minor setback, but that only applies to 31 impact archetypes. Calm down.
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4 commentairesif you gave an actual example people may be able to take you seriously
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First OP, you'll learn over the years that no developer will ever reply to absolutely everything. There's more important and ultimately more fruit bearing topics which get replied to and that's just if Cozmo or Deej doesn't have other things they need to do. Secondly, they did NOT build a game for PS3, PS4, Xbox 360, and Xbox One just to give PvE anything besides a continued look at reworking it, rebalancing it, and anything else it would actually require. All the same, the vocal aspect of a forums? Is to be honest and angry at the same time. I guess I've been around gaming too long because that gets old real fast with me and you're attitude of, "waahhh. show me and others attention!" just begs me to ask, "why do you care so much about a community element which neither benefits the game on the immediate scale nor builds anything for the future? Oh... and one last one... absolutely do not ever let yourself care about someone acknowledging your points. If they were ever relevant? (correct answer being yes. Always.) They are already considering it because? They only make a living... on listening.
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Bungie has been ruining PvE since the first weapon tuning patch. They will continue to ruin PvE with each weapon tuning.
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9 commentairesThey've never properly communicated (discussion, interview, etc) with anyone other than youtubers/streamers/or gameinformer workers in two years, dont hold your breath
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2 commentairesBungie doesn't care about what their PvE players want. Taking elemental damage away made no sense whatsoever. Bungie made shitty raid weapons for the latest raid and didn't want their new weapons to be overshadowed by the older, better raid weapons. As for PVP that's all they seem to care about. They keep nerfing weapons and subclasses because of PVP crybabies at the expense of PvE.
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1 commentaireModifié par TimboLextown : 9/15/2016 7:46:20 AMBungie's policy from Day 1 with Destiny has been to completely ignore even the most well-deserved outrage, wait a little while and everyone will grow tired of bitching, forget about it and move on. Zero transparency whatsoever, zero accountability, zero -blam!-s given. That's Bungie's move.
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2 commentairesBalance in PVE is boring. Let us have some OPAF weapons!
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It's a real issue that people including Bungie feel that simply adding some PVE content into their PVP focused game should count as them 'responding' to us. We have got to talk with them about what they're doing to PVE. We've got to have an actual dialogue about the nerfs hurting PVE. But they tack on more PVE content which we get to use our broken guns and classes in - that doesn't count as a reply. It counts as a band aid to a wound that will simply be cauterised by talking to us.
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3 commentairesHow about the "leaving behind" of the majority of yr1 "content" but not leaving behind anything from yr2 going into yr3!!!! Seriously, they may not change the LL of KF raid, but it's items will still be infuseable so it's still relevant unlike VoG/CE/PoE....
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Agreed However looking over how updates have been handled before it wouldn't surpise me to see a revamped VoG and Crota later on in yr3 Could be why they didn't advance anything. Why re-grind old content if the gear is already current? Again just a thought.
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78 commentairesWe've been barking up this very tree for almost three full years now. Bungie hasn't listened to the wails of the PvE players (you know, the [b]vast[/b] majority of their player base...), our vitriol, our pleading, in that time, they aren't likely to start now. I thought the rage that came after the Y1 nerf a week before TTK (a nerf enacted on Y1 gear even though we weren't going to be able to bring Y1 gear into Y2 anyway...) would have been enough to make Bungie think about PvE. Nope. Bungie just still keeps plugging along with their entirely PvP-focused philosophy. We can't even get original DLC (or DLC of any appreciable size for an Always Online Open World FPSMMO), the DLC we get in PvE was what was hacked out of the game pre-Vanilla release so it could be sold to us as DLC. No... Bungie has zero plans to support PvE. It's so pathetic it's sad.
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Trust me PVE is going nowhere. PVP is not enough to keep this game going. There are other PVP games that dominate
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PVE is pretty alright currently what you talking about?
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4 commentairesCan't wait for the new mass effect
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10 commentairesModifié par bobswerski : 9/15/2016 1:22:59 PMWhat a load. It's patently false that more effort or content goes to PvP compared to PvE. It's not even a contest, RoI is [i]almost[/i] even due to custom matches and a new game mode but oh by the way there's also a new raid, strike, story missions, social space, and redone strikes too. And oh, I'm sorry, you didn't get a personalized handwritten note from Bungie apologizing for making PvE 1% harder to snipe in? Have a tissue. It must be [i]so hard[/i] not being a special snowflake out in the big bad real world where mommy isn't catering to your every whim.
