[quote]Why? 1. You have to grind the red box weapons to get the material. 2. This prevents leveling up weapon you want to shape/reshape. 3. Takes time to get used to new rolls. 4. Weapons shaped have bad rolls. Even reshaped weapons with enhanced perks are not god rolls. 5. Random drops tend to have better stats and perks most desirable. For weapon shaping to be worth the grind I want to be able to shape a weapon that puts the weapon in a category that I want to keep, to use regularly and that gives me an edge in PVP and PVE. Otherwise what's the point? After 2 years of grinding and constant battle with trying to figure out what weapons and armor I want to keep I have decided its time to clean house including my shaped weapons and exotics (which is most of them). If I am not having fun.... it not me its you.[/quote] You do realize right b4 an activity ends like Crucible you switch to the red weapons after 3 games they are done.